I think having more choice is good, but it’ll be hard to seperate the tiers while also keeping them similar so it’s not confusing. It’s why I think having stuff like cloud gaming included in all tiers and MP. It doesn’t leave much differential things for each tier though.
I’d sign up for Ultimate because it’ll give me all the DLC/GP upgrades
I think the problem you run into is the people that just want to play online don’t want to be forced into Game Pass. It would have been better for them to have kept live gold a separate product IMO. Or… completely get rid of paying for online which they aren’t going to do while they are obviously looking for $$ lol
Isn’t the lowest tier I mentioned close to the same thing as Game Pass Core as it is now though? actually I think it might even be better because it’s got the same games as GP just later not a selection of 30 or so and updated only twice a year.
Adding the full Game Pass library is a pretty big benefit for an extra $1, even if it lags behind by 6 months. A ton of people would be more than willing to wait and downgrade from GPU as a result.
I do think they should eliminate PC Game Pass and just make Game Pass… Game Pass. I don’t think you should be charged different dependent on platform at this point. I’d pull EA Play out of ‘PC Game Pass’ and make it a GPU only thing.
I wonder if they’d ever consider a fee (to be passed on to Steam) for allowing access to first party games via Steam?
Problem is the DLC and early access premium edition top ups make them a LOT of money on games like Starfield, Forza Horizon and no doubt CoD
That’s pretty much exactly what I said though all the tiers I brought up had PC GP, MP and all the Game pass titles just the lowest tier has them 6 months later.
Thing is DLC doesn’t sell much so getting DLC included would increase it overall over losing the actual sale of DLC imo. Out of the 34M or so FH5 players only like 2m-3m bought the hot wheels DLC.
Think it was about 2 to 3 million that got the full deluxe edition, either as a Game Pass add on or the separate full price one.
Assuming some bought it after / didn’t bother playing the DLCs as they just wanted early access / some did buy the DLCs separately, it’s probably a good £30 to £50 million from Game Pass subscribers alone, assuming a rough split of the full price vs GP with add ons players.
So yes it’s doable assuming they only have a few big games a year with DLC / early access, but they’d probably need to charge an extra £5 a month or so.
I’m not really arguing as I’d also sub to that level as I nearly always get the early access and DLC - I’m just not sure they’ll do it
What I would like:
Game Pass: Console and PC.
Game Pass Ultimate: Console, PC, Cloud, EA Play.
Game Pass Extreme: Console, PC, Cloud, EA Play, Premium Editions.
Raise the prices and charge $15 - $20 - $25 respectively.
Online play included in all tiers?
You guys, stop advocating for them to raise prices! 
Well, they can add a tipping system instead
I don’t see why it would make a lot of sense to increase prices tbh. Cod is perfect for Gamepass as there’s a new game every year and could drive more subscriptions.
Imo, XBOX have 2 options on this - take the hit on Xbox sales of COD and hope that more Xbox players come to the game on Gamepass (a certainty, imo), opening up a couple of revenue streams - some Xbox players who wouldn’t have bought the game will buy cosmetics, and some Xbox players who don’t currently subscribe become subscribers.
Possibly, some people who are considering a console will go for Xbox hardware on the strength of COD on Gamepass.
If Microsoft manage to ship a couple of well reviewed games before the end of the year, those things will sell Gamepass.
So, by making Gamepass as attractive as possible (or more attractive than it currently is) then Microsoft stand to make some long term gains.
OR
Make Gamepass less attractive by upping the price and focusing on offsetting the potential drop in sales of the game. If the price increases, even slightly, for current subscribers then some will inevitably drop the service. If Gamepass gets too expensive, people will dismiss it. If it goes to $20 a month or more than $18 (because 19 feels like 20) loads of people will be put off. In that instance, if the price goes up, a decent number of people won’t consider Gamepass at all and will just buy the game outright.
I expect (not least because it’s rumoured) that Microsoft will assume they can crank the prices up and it’ll be another bullet to their own foot.
Yeah.
I’d prefer if they got rid of it (they are soooo forward thinking after all, right?) but if not they can have something like an “Online Pass” or keep “Core” but it’s silly.
I feel it’s inevitable and I wouldn’t mind that Premium tier tbh. All tiers are still cheap for what you get.
I’d include cloud in the bottom tier, maybe cap it at 1080p while the other two get 4K if they end up improving cloud.
GP will go up regardless of COD imo, I think they’ll time a price increase with COD to lessen the blow and that doesn’t mean it’s going because of COD like many people keep saying.
I don’t think Microsoft is too worried about trying to recoup sales of COD on Xbox because of GP, they are gonna be selling it on like 4 other platforms including Switch 2 and Xbox being the smallest of the current ones they support helps.
I believe restructuring is happening due to the xbox and ubisoft deal for cloud streaming rights.
I think they will introduce a new tier with ubisoft+ included in some shape or form and this will be there way to provide cloud streaming of COD and ubi games in one package.
All speculations though.
They are a business and are about profits so it’s okay 
With posts like these I always wonder if they’re actual consumers and/or fans of the platform or Microsoft shareholders/investors.
I’m not sure I agree, but I think you’re right that the game on other platforms can somewhat subsidise whatever Microsoft choose to do re:Gamepass. It all depends on the accounting really - I assume that Activision can report “we made $xx” but Xbox will have to do the same and will be judged independently of what Activision bring in, even if it relates to the same title.
I’m sure the price will rise at some point but I wonder if it has to at this time. It’s less than a year since the last increase, and presumably Microsoft would prefer people to be celebrating cod on GP, rather than moaning about a price increase and threatening to end their subscriptions if it keeps getting more expensive. That would somewhat take the shine off the moment.
I’d love to know how many people are paying monthly Vs having stacked up years of subscription and how many people do that before a new price comes in. Maybe people are less price sensitive than it seems at times?
Thing is Microsoft didn’t own ABK before so were only making 30% on each sale but now they own it they make 100% profit and 70% profit everywhere else so even if their own platform goes to 0% the 70% everywhere else would more than likely cover the cost. I don’t think adding Cod to GP will tank the entire revenue stream from ABK. Revenue will still be higher for Xbox during the report, number go up.
I think people would be more understanding with them adding all the call of duty titles and ABK than randomly
Price increases are inevitable
None of us want them to happen but they will, that being said I think GP is an excellent service and I also don’t think raising it to $20 is that big of a deal
Do I want it to happen? Of course not but I think him and others including myself are just saying that if it does increase it will still be a good price for what you get