I really like your badge and gif/video idea, I think that would be a better approach.
With achievement tracking I meant something more like a pop-up at the bottom that shows real time progress as you’re doing it. For example if you need to collect 50 items it will show 1/50 as you collect it.
The steam community & store features are fantastic, I quite like the feature on Steam where you can follow a curator allowing you to find games you may like much easier.
It sort of works like that, since we can put achievements on screen as it being the one we’re after(edit if we add it to favorites it updates the 3 chosen achievements for the tracker, and it looks like Microsoft added a search option to do a Bing search on edge for the answer). But if the achievement doesn’t have tracking implemented by the devs when they make them, I don’t think it updates.
Again, I guess. I don’t generally play a game on someones recommendation, and the curation that Microsofts algorithm(?) does (deals for you, based on your recent activity, also the indie selects to showcase them) is good enough for me. But having more a human touch could be beneficial though so I wouldn’t really be against it.
Do we have any other juicy tidbits from Tom Warren’s Notepad article that is paywalled? Really interested to know what else he has heard that he’s hinted on in that article, since there is a bit more than there was in the regular, non paywalled article of his.
I’m assuming that this would be part of their next gen consoles, probably a handheld and a traditional more powerful system.
Hoping it runs the same software as their home console as well, which when you think about it could be a tough sell for those trying to push boundaries as the handheld is most likely to be more limited in power. There’s also the fact that if it indeed does play PC games as well it’ll definitely be a problem Vs the traditional, more powerful console. But if the Xbox part is at least identical in terms of library I think it’d be a good trade off.
I think that push for more fidelity needs to slow down a bit anyway due to rising costs and dev times taking forever today. So I’d be happy with a bit less of that as long as the games still deliver.
Mayne they can somehow get to a Series S and Series X level of difference and have the handheld be the cheaper console, but a handheld as it’s selling point, we’ll see, as long as they don’t force their studios into making games for a way weaker console I’m console I’m good, which is something I didn’t think about, this thing is still probably nearly 2 years away, coming after Switch so it’ll have to have some power advantages and many other features to differentiate itself.
Same. SteamOS can’t even run League of Legends, lmao. And people expect it to take over? Especially when, in due time, Xbox will have their own way to ‘Console-ize’ a PC?
Nonsense.
Same. Someone do us a solid and give us a rundown of whats in Tom’s Notepad article.
While Xbox mite be taking a good approach to making everything an Xbox the biggest complaint I always hear is windows sucks. Steam seems to be doing what Xbox is trying to do but they have a better os for it which is crazy because Xbox is supposed to be all about software. If Xbox and steam allow you to play your games anywhere and Sony doesn’t but then all ps games come to steam so in turn Xbox I can see Sony losing market share next gen
Steam OS is ‘better’ but it’s still Linux and not a true console like experience. There’s time for Xbox/Windows to catch up.
Steam itself is only an app and not a whole operating system like Windows. Steam OS is only for gaming and the processor in Steam Deck, support for NVidia and Intel are spotty at best. Windows has to work for everything. And with everything i mean corporate custom software stuff from 40 years ago running on some random PC in a big bank. There are reasons for all of this.
Just as an example I would fucking LOVE to build a high end pc with a console like Box/form factor slap on the Xbox OS put it under my TV and have it act and behave like my Series X as far as couch convenience goes but also be a real PC where Xbox is an app and I could run that and Steam big screen as “gaming consoles” but still have the ability to boot into windows etc.
That would be a pretty ultimate gaming device, essentially the Steam portion would allow you to play most of Sony’s 1st party games and or the best versions of Xbox games using the PC version as play anywhere or PC gamepass versions etc and also still have your entire legacy Xbox catalog available. Then you open things up to major emulators and all the cool things a powerful coach PC could do.
Yea that is WAY WAY more appealing then another go around at typical console hardware and console generations.
I’d jump at that in a heart beat and not look back and people can fight over console war bullshit while I pretty much play every game to ever come out on tons of different devices AND a super monster PC with console convenience under my TV.
Sign me the fuck up for that.
It‘d be best of both worlds for me, too. It‘s just that it can be done right and wrong in many ways, and I need to see what they want to do with it first.
The thing is if they put out the Xbox OS like we have heard it’s up to YOU to do it right,
Here is the Xbox OS that will turn supported PC/Handheld hardware into a virtual or even native Xbox console, it’s up to you to build it how you want, that’s how YOU do it right.
“Windows sucks” but SteamOS is a “better OS for playing PC games”???
Have you ever used a gaming computer? The vast majority of PC games work absolutely, completely fine on Windows
Meanwhile SteamOS can’t even play League of Legends…
Problem with Steam OS is a lot of stuff doesn’t run or won’t run on it like LoL, Fortnite and it’s not always due to Valve as apparently the anti-cheat solutions are now compatible but some devs like Epic just don’t care about supporting Steam OS.
There is also the fact that anything outside of Steam (which isn’t even 100% compatible with its own library anyway) won’t work out of the box and you need to find workarounds to make it work and they are far from user friendly. People need gto remember that even the most common PC users have no idea really how to fiddle around with computers and a lot of them don’t even know how to re-install windows without paying some Geek Squad people or whatever other service there is. So figuring out how to add the Battle.net launcher or Epic or EA’s, etc is far too complicated for most people. I see some saying Bazzite makes it easier, but again, you are asking people to install a Linux distro made for gaming on their computer, which most people can’t even handle anyway.
Windows is compatible with everything, so if they do come out with a solution that can implement all PC stores into the interface in an user friendly manner, they would definitely have the upper hand on the competition.
Exactly. SteamOS is just a middling Windows emulator with bad software compatibility and a console-ized UI on it.
If Xbox can make an XboxOS running on actual Windows with full software compatibility and a consolized UI on it there would theoretically be no reason to use SteamOS unless you just prefer the ecosystem and don’t mind that the biggest PC games don’t even run on it.
Steam OS doesn’t really bring any advantages unless you have a big hard on against Microsoft to be honest, which seems to be the case in some circles. I personally never got the appeal of Linux for home use.
I wouldn’t mind giving it a chance if MS decided to port the Xbox App over, but I doubt that’ll ever happen. Until then, Windows/Xbox all the way!
Microsoft/Xbox will not and CAN not port the Xbox App in its current form over to SteamOS. Game Pass is an integral part of the Xbox App and Game Pass includes games that are not compatible with SteamOS, most notably the Riot Games partnership stuff, which all uses Riot Vanguard, their proprietary anti-cheat, but also all the CoD’s that will be part of game pass. Basically anything that has any form or serious anti-cheat will not work on SteamOS.
So not only is it not within their best interest to have the Xbox App on SteamOS they literally cant without shipping a busted version of Game Pass to those customers. It’s a non-starter.
I’m sure Xbox will be happy to have SteamOS work exactly like Steam on Windows today. Wherein customers on Steam are free to purchase Xbox first-party games at full price, and Game Pass lives in the Xbox App which will be Windows/XboxOS exclusive.
There are already native games on Linux, the Numbers Will ONLY go up when SteamOS launches, MS and Windows is slowly becoming irrelevant.