The Verge: Size comparsion of Xbox Series S & X vs PS5

[Shpeshal_Nick]

@clashfan

The ugly part is subjective. I think it’s pretty bad looking but surprise there are people that love it. The size part is just poor engineering. That is not subjective.

“There are people that love it”

I’d argue that most (not all) people that allegedly love it, wouldn’t love it if it wasn’t a PlayStation.

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@Dom

It’s not that Cerny isn’t smart, its just that MS finally poured resources and enabled their top engineers actually build something incredible.

When it’s all said and done, the Series X will end up in the guggenheim museum, just an absolute engineering marvel of form factor and power.

I mean let’s not forget how amazing of a system the One X was; it’s not like MS engineers suddenly got good, but they had the backing to really spend money on great materials and thermal solutions, coupled with inarguably superior engineers.

[JAMIE_ODST]

Thinking of getting a PS5 next summer… No idea where the hell it is going tho…

[DeoGame]

@Zappy5

…t the PS5 has a new controller, a new UI, and new launch games. And people are tempted by that. Even if the controller is a gimmick and the UI barebones they want the shiny new toys. I do think that is a factor and IMO somewhere Xbox have messed up a bit. Their offering is absolutely fantastic for people in their ecosystem but it isn’t enticing anyone really to jump in - not at launch at least. Whereas I suspect people will be swayed by the PS5 new toys syndrome. Its not for me personally but I do understand the argument that the Xbox showcased the UI yesterday and its just a faster UI - but everything else is the same. Now its a great UI - BUT doesn’t really bring any new innovation. and the controller is the same. Lets not underestimate that people do like things that are new and exciting.

I actually don’t disagree that the PS5 feels more like a leap forward, given the new UI, new controller, wildly different look, etc. On the surface level alone, it looks more iterative, and features like advanced haptics and adaptive triggers are cool selling points, provided they are supported. If not, they join HD Rumble (which I loved) and Six Axis in the forgotten launch gimmicks bin.

That said, Xbox brute forcing their way with so much power in such a tiny box still blows me away, and I feel the exciting aspects of the system are things that need time to grow like DirectX12 features, advanced raytracing capabilities, VRS, Mesh Shaders and more. I think that Xbox’s potential down the line is massive.

The biggest thing of all though are the games, and while Sony has the advantage out of the gate, Xbox has enough loyalty and hype for titles like Halo to get through 2021 pretty OK. Then the machine starts going apeshit with games like Starfield, Avowed, Fable, Wolfenstein 3, Prey 2, Forza Horizon 5, Forza Motorsport, Compulsion and Initiative games, Everwild, Hellblade 2, Project Mara, Gears 6… jesus! And many of these titles are gonna push the boundaries of the Series X and do damn respectfully on the Series S and that is where things get exciting.

I like on paper how Sony has innovated with their haptics and triggers, and on their SSD and those will be their key advantages, but MS’s slow game with an emphasis on power maximization, stable GPU clocks, Cloud integration and RDNA 2 will reap benefits in the long run.

[DeoGame]

@anonymous

The PS5 is ugly to me. But I actually checked with both my kids who are in their twenties and moved out, and their opinion was different. My daughter loves it, and my son is indifferent. He’s more interested in Demon Soul’s remake, and she is all about Astro’s playroom. Both have preorders, and simply cannot believe that I am passing it up …

It seems the design is a problem for older gamers, while the younger generation likes it?

I’m 21. I think it looks sinfully ugly standing up but should look tolerable on its side in my dimly lit entertainment center. It’s a bulky bugger and I’m not a huge fan.

That said, it could look like a bag of trash and I’d still be at least curious due to the games. But yeah, aesthetically speaking:

Series S > Switch > Series X > Switch Lite >>> PS5 Digital >>> PS5 Disc.

[zhus (DrZee)]

@Zappy5

…ospect but the problem is if sales are 4/5-1 by then will it matter? The mass market might follow the launch but after that many have made their choice and won’t switch because they just drop out of following the news.

This is just strawman… The XB One fate was decided back in 2013 when it was lower performance and more expensive. The One X was not launched to drive sale, a med gen console which is the highest perf but also the most expensive at $500 doesn’t do that. But both One S and specially One X changed perception for what MSFT can deliver from its Hardware team.

You could equally have argued that PS2 selling 160M units would have meant that PS3 would sale even more, there was a huge demand right? Yet, poor pricing and not so great perf meant that it sold only 90M and lost Sony $5B in the process too. So, yes, your past performance is not a perfect guide to future performance.

There seems to be still argument that selling most number of consoles is all that matters. Remind me how many consoles Tencent sold? If you have been paying attention to Phil S. (and see the MSFT earning numbers today), you will see that XBox has been trying to diversify to their ecosystem to include PC and mobile. If all your focus is today, you may find that the future is very different. There are some very big players with very deep pockets are entering gaming, and none of them will offer a traditional console.

[Resist]

@Zappy5

There IS smoke and mirrors I agree. But that’s part of the problem Xbox have. They could have marketed Gears 5 just like Sony have Spiderman but instead they’ve effectively buried a major update and not really sold the public on how insane Gears 5 is. So the perception is Spiderman MM is a brand new game that looks insane but Gears 5 is just an enhancement. That’s on Xbox.

They should have repackaged Gears 5 with the DLC had it at launch with the new graphical enhancements thrown in some hardware RT (since its the new buzzword) and called it Gears 5 Hivebusters or something. Then they’d have had their own title to generate buzz and wow people.

It is an enhancement. Stop with the console war nonsense, MS shouldn’t promote Gears 5 update for Series X as anything more than an enhancement.

[TheRayTracer]

[Jeans]

@TheRayTracer

I don’t know how, but my brain tells me that the left image is photoshopped somehow. But I know it’s not.