The Initiative game could be not the game we are waiting for

[Daniel]

Microsoft will always be held to a different standard.

[Opatschi]

@peter42O

True and no they should not hide their hiring process but they should word it better.

The studio head is from Tomb Raider. I know there’s a huge mix of various games that the talent at the studio has worked on and whatnot but let’s be honest, for their first game, they can’t exactly release a “stinker”. LOL. I mean, come on. Even if the game isn’t for me, I still want it to be a great game in general.

And he also worked on Call of duty. His job is to find talent and organize.

[peter42O]

@Opatschi

And he also worked on Call of duty. His job is to find talent and organize.

Isn’t he also in charge of the game itself and the direction of the game?

[Opatschi]

@peter42O

Isn’t he also in charge of the game itself and the direction of the game?

Uh sure but I don’t think he is the main lead designer or so idk what I wanted to say is that he worked on many different kind of games.

[OneBadMutha]

My opinions:

1. Many very vocal influencers and content creators are going to rant. Right now in the world of list wars, the most important game is the 3rd person, narrative driven, action oriented, AAA open or wide world game. Big games with big stories that are one and done. The Initiative was the Chosen One. With all the senior talent they stole from the top 3rd person, narrative driven AAA games of last gen, people expected this to be Microsoft’s God of War.
2. Senior talent who’ve had huge recent successes don’t all land in the same spot unless there’s an inspiring vision. Something challenging. Something impressive. Let it play out.

[peter42O]

@Opatschi

Uh sure but I don’t think he is the main lead designer or so idk what I wanted to say is that he worked on many different kind of games.

Okay, cool. Understood.

[peter42O]

@OneBadMutha

My opinions:

1. Many very vocal influencers and content creators are going to rant. Right now in the world of list wars, the most important game is the 3rd person, narrative driven, action oriented, AAA open or wide world game. Big games with big stories that are one and done. The Initiative was the Chosen One. With all the senior talent they stole from the top 3rd person, narrative driven AAA games of last gen, people expected this to be Microsoft’s God of War.
2. Senior talent who’ve had huge recent successes don’t all land in the same spot unless there’s an inspiring vision. Something challenging. Something impressive. Let it play out.

I agree completely. Just have to wait and see what it is.

[Shpeshal_Nick]

@Swanlee

Xbox could send each gamer a check for $1000 and the internet would complain about it. It is a meta hobby of the gaming community to trash Xbox and pretend Sony can do no wrong.

Exactly, I know…that was my point.

Microsoft gets shit on no matter what they do. So if they do something that ALSO doesn’t align with their ill-conceived expectations, it only makes it worse.

Again, if you (not you personally) actually watch the entire segment of the podcast, this should be fairly obvious. But it’s clear who did and who didn’t watch.

[eggplant]

I’d rather it not be episodic but I wouldn’t mind it being like the Hitman route. We’ll see I guess, no point panicking this early…especially when we know nothing.

[Daniel]

Notice how it’s always bad news, we haven’t even bloody heard or seen anything since they announced the studio and people are already concerned about the game… actually we did hear something recently about the devs kid playing the game which opened the flood gates to concern.

I don’t understand why people can’t just wait and see what the actual game is first before already cancelling your fake preorder for a game which hasn’t been announced or even teased.

[T0kenAussie (Scott Turner)]

@peter42O

…enough studios, talent, money, time and resources to deliver great games to those who are invested into the Xbox eco-system. Microsoft has RPG’s locked up (first and third person), they have the stylized art style with Rare games, they have the FPS/TPS with Doom/Gears/etc., they pretty much have everything except for the one genre/area that the majority of Xbox fans keep asking for which is third person action adventure story driven games. I’m not expecting every studio to do this nor should they but it would be nice to get at least a few studios out of 25+ to actually do this because it would fill out the portfolio a lot better and make as many Xbox fans across the board happy and satisfied at the same time. Plus, all the other genres and games are still there as well so everyone would win.

If your expecting a last of us you will be disappointed and that’s on you tbh

Let the initiative make the game they want to make. Isn’t that what everyone wants?

[Ser_Bloodraven (Hand of the King)]

@Shpeshal_Nick

Exactly, I know…that was my point.

Microsoft gets shit on no matter what they do. So if they do something that ALSO doesn’t align with their ill-conceived expectations, it only makes it worse.

Again, if you (not you personally) actually watch the entire segment of the podcast, this should be fairly obvious. But it’s clear who did and who didn’t watch.

Have you heard any more about the studio(s) you previously teased?

[Djbirdman26 (Davis)]

I wonder with the rumor of it being a episodic game and the rumor taking place in the perfect dark universe and not following Joanna that i could be an episodic following different agents. This would allow them to create games that follow maybe a general story arc between the games while doing condensed stories following new agents.

Having different agents would allow different game mechanics to easily be implemented as it would make sense. This could have games the length of miles morales or even slightly longer depending on their vision while still fitting the episodic format which isn’t bad big time a format like this where it is a different character your following each episode.

Granted this is just my 2 cents and I could be way off in left field or even the parking lot lol.

[Mort]

It depends on what the game actually is… If it’s a quirky, cartoony, mp, episodic game… Yeah, I won’t pretend to not be disappointed.

[peter42O]

@T0kenAussie

If your expecting a last of us you will be disappointed and that’s on you tbh

Let the initiative make the game they want to make. Isn’t that what everyone wants?

After completing TLOUP2 back in June, I can guarantee that’s definitely not what I want. At least not when it comes to the story/characters/narrative aspects.

Studios in my opinion should have a few prototypes and those in charge overall should pick the title that they see as having the best potential for growth and to become a franchise. Sometimes, the studios and those working in the studio do need a strict person above them because that’s how you keep order and everything structured. Otherwise, it can turn out bad.

[Shpeshal_Nick]

@Ser_Bloodraven

Have you heard any more about the studio(s) you previously teased?

Nope and I assure you I’ve been asking. Much like Bethesda it seems they’re keeping it very close to the chest

[Hix]

@Shpeshal_Nick

Exactly, I know…that was my point.

Microsoft gets shit on no matter what they do. So if they do something that ALSO doesn’t align with their ill-conceived expectations, it only makes it worse.

Again, if you actually watch the entire segment of the podcast, this should be fairly obvious. But it’s clear who did and who didn’t watch.

Let’s be honest here Ed, most people outside of XboxEra are going to hear what you said from a secondary source, it’s being extensively passed around and used as ammo for console wars.

And it’s understandable, in some ways, too. You clearly went too far - to suggest people will actually lose faith in XGS over this one single game was wildly unfounded and thus absolutely FUD.

I’m not saying you have to always curtail your opinion, but the narrative around this game is decidedly negative now - not because it could be episodic, but because an XboxEra Insider thinks it will be so poorly received that it will taint every other MS first party game by association in the eyes of many.

The episodic nature of the game could actually be really good. Maybe it works well with Game Pass? Maybe it’s like FF7R and feels complete? But because it was originally framed in the context of suspected negativity, that’s fuel on the fire for the “Xbox mismanages their studios” argument. It’s all such a shame.

[Phonomezer]

We’ll see. Glancing at the ResetError thread you’d think someone had committed a hate crime, but it sounds fine? We have no idea what it’ll be.

[Shpeshal_Nick]

@Hix

…erstandable, in some ways, too. You clearly went too far - to suggest people will actually lose faith in XGS over this one single game was wildly unfounded and thus absolutely FUD. I’m not saying you have to always curtail your opinion, but the narrative around this game is decidedly negative now - not because it could be episodic, but because an XboxEra Insider thinks it will be so poorly received that it will taint every other MS first party game by association in the eyes of many. The episodic nature of the game could actually be really good. Maybe it works well with Game Pass? Maybe it’s like FF7R and feels complete? But because it was originally framed in the context of suspected negativity, that’s fuel on the fire for the “Xbox mismanages their studios” argument. It’s all such a shame.

Question…did you actually watch the episode/segment?

Because what you’re saying to me here seems to indicate you haven’t.

[Mort]

@Hix

The episodic nature of the game could actually be really good. Maybe it works well with Game Pass?

That would actually look worse… games changing to adapt to Game Pass? Yeah now you really get the morons riled up.