The Big ol' Xbox 3rd Party Releases Discussion Thread (HiFi, SoT, Pentiment, Grounded) (Part 2)

[Anime_Vix]

@BadNews

looks like Tom removed the Halo part in his article

https://twitter.com/leaks_infinite/status/1798854382789783655

It too late. The damage has been done. Big twitter accounts like Culture Crave and Screentime has already spread this rumor around.

[Resist]

I’m guessing he removed it because of harassment???

[Callangoso]

I believe in pretty much every “leak” that happens, but even I can’t believe in this Tom Warren nonsense .

The timing is so ridiculous and the fact that he’s adding the word “considered” to everything he says make’s me sure that he’s just fearmonging to get clicks

[DoctorFaustus]

@Resist

I’m guessing he removed it because of harassment???

Don’t know if it was actually removed. The tweet doesn’t exist.

However they did tweet this:

https://twitter.com/leaks_infinite/status/1798862524085067797

[pg2g]

I am excited to see what UE5 Halo looks like, lol. Some of yall probably will be too after you see Gears 6.

[nrXic]

I’m taking all of this with extreme skepticism but when we combine previous reporting on Microsoft considering these big games hitting their rival platform it is making me question whether or not Microsoft wants to stay in the hardware business.

Maybe they see the hardware division as this massive sunk cost? The hardware itself doesn’t turn a massive profit (The stuff that does like controllers can still be sold for PCs).

So while I won’t give any credence to these rumors I am starting to question where Microsoft’s head is at.

I know there’s a commitment to some form of hardware in the near future here but without a clear message all we have is speculation.

[pg2g]

@nrXic

I’m taking all of this with extreme skepticism but when we combine previous reporting on Microsoft considering these big games hitting their rival platform it is making me question whether or not Microsoft wants to stay in the hardware business.

Maybe they see the hardware division as this massive sunk cost? The hardware itself doesn’t turn a massive profit (The stuff that does like controllers can still be sold for PCs).

So while I won’t give any credence to these rumors I am starting to question where Microsoft’s head is at.

I know there’s a commitment to some form of hardware in the near future here but without a clear message all we have is speculation.

It’s pretty clear to me. Turn the console into a PC and sell it without a subsidy. Accept that it will be lower volume and that’s okay because it plays PC games and will have the best library of any Xbox console ever. Offset the loses and some by releasing your software everywhere, ultimately making more than they were primarily as a platform holder.

[Haven (Victor)]

@Whistler

It seems like we keep going around in circles with this multiplatform talk. I mean is it really a big deal? I just see it as: If Halo for example becomes really big on PS then sure Xbox loses an exclusive but gains a much larger franchise. If Halo doesn’t move the needle on PS, then no need to make it a muliform and maybe they steal away a few customers who really liked the game.

That said I still think this multiplat push is to help with government regulators.

I think the idea is to push every platform to go digital and embrace the store front idea. I just don’t see how future hardware can be made at a profit which is what’s plaguing Xbox. With the handheld Microsoft can use it as a device to muscle their way into the mobile industry again and use All Access or Mobile carriers to sell it at a profit. There’s just no way a nextgen console that rivals or outdoes a 4090 can be sold at 500 heck even a thousand is not enough. The multiplatform idea doesn’t really work otherwise cos the playstation is not doing well and PC isn’t exactly doing that great as well. Xbox’s way is in the end to find their path to those billions on mobile and that path is through Gamepass and the Xbox store.

[pg2g]

@Haven

… I think the idea is to push every platform to go digital and embrace the store front idea. I just don’t see how future hardware can be made at a profit which is what’s plaguing Xbox. With the handheld Microsoft can use it as a device to muscle their way into the mobile industry again and use All Access or Mobile carriers to sell it at a profit. There’s just no way a nextgen console that rivals or outdoes a 4090 can be sold at 500 heck even a thousand is not enough. The multiplatform idea doesn’t really work otherwise cos the playstation is not doing well and PC isn’t exactly doing that great as well. Xbox’s way is in the end to find their path to those billions on mobile and that path is through Gamepass and the Xbox store.

If you’re PC based you could offer boxes at a variety of price points though.

[Kals_Els]

@pg2g

It’s pretty clear to me. Turn the console into a PC and sell it without a subsidy. Accept that it will be lower volume and that’s okay because it plays PC games and will have the best library of any Xbox console ever. Offset the loses and some by releasing your software everywhere, ultimately making more than they were primarily as a platform holder.

I can only speak for myself, but if Microsoft just made an Xbox branded PC I wouldn’t buy it. If it’s not the plan to have a console that has PC store options to side load or already part of it, I’m just not going to bother with Xbox.

[pg2g]

@Kals_Els

I can only speak for myself, but if Microsoft just made an Xbox branded PC I wouldn’t buy it. If it’s not the plan to have a console that has PC store options to side load or already part of it, I’m just not going to bother with Xbox.

Well, it won’t be an Xbox branded version running the plain Windows 11 that exists today. The UI and experience would be tailored for a big screen (TV) and small screen (handheld). They are already working on integration of other stores into the Xbox app on PC.

Difference between a console that has PC store options and a PC is the SW.

[Sparda3g]

I wonder if anyone noticed Phil has been quiet until that one comment about IGN interview this Sunday. Sounds like he’s holding it in until that day. Best shot to get a better picture. Key word: better. Don’t mistake it with full/complete. Either way, it’s always best to wait for official when it comes to finalized decision.

[Good_Old_Collingwood]

@Sparda3g

I wonder if anyone noticed Phil has been quiet until that one comment about IGN interview this Sunday. Sounds like he’s holding it in until that day. Best shot to get a better picture. Key word: better. Don’t mistake it with full/complete. Either way, it’s always best to wait for official when it comes to finalized decision.

Doesn’t Phil get on the Giant Bomb couch as well?

[Kals_Els]

@pg2g

Well, it won’t be an Xbox branded version running the plain Windows 11 that exists today. The UI and experience would be tailored for a big screen (TV) and small screen (handheld). They are already working on integration of other stores into the Xbox app on PC.

Difference between a console that has PC store options and a PC is the SW.

Right, but it would still be a PC only and I would lose access to anything I bought on Xbox. The UI won’t change anything for me, if the console part of Xbox is just gone for the PC experience that I don’t enjoy.

[pg2g]

@Kals_Els

Right, but it would still be a PC only and I would lose access to anything I bought on Xbox. The UI won’t change anything for me, if the console part of Xbox is just gone for the PC experience that I don’t enjoy.

No reason it couldn’t be BC

[Shadowgasm]

@Good_Old_Collingwood

Doesn’t Phil get on the Giant Bomb couch as well?

He usually does, yes. This year they were originally supposed to be on there, but they pulled out. I think the interview with IGN is the only one he’s doing.

[Kals_Els]

@pg2g

No reason it couldn’t be BC

Is the BC team even still working on it? Because it feels like the work Microsoft did to keep updating the version of Windows that they made with Xbox One.

Is the reason that BC seems like such an easy thing, but actually bringing that to the Xbox app is likely going to be a game by game basis like they did with 360 games, which they will stop as soon as they run into to many licensing issues.

[Searsy82]

@Shadowgasm

He usually does, yes. This year they were originally supposed to be on there, but they pulled out. I think the interview with IGN is the only one he’s doing.

This is correct. Jeff Grubb mentioned it on the Kinda Funny show yesterday. They had them scheduled and they backed out.

[pg2g]

@Kals_Els

Is the BC team even still working on it? Because it feels like the work Microsoft did to keep updating the version of Windows that they made with Xbox One.

Is the reason that BC seems like such an easy thing, but actually bringing that to the Xbox app is likely going to be a game by game basis like they did with 360 games, which they will stop as soon as they run into to many licensing issues.

Think you’re getting caught up in the weeds. The next Xbox, no matter what form it takes, is going to maintain BC.

[Searsy82]

@Kals_Els

Is the BC team even still working on it? Because it feels like the work Microsoft did to keep updating the version of Windows that they made with Xbox One.

Is the reason that BC seems like such an easy thing, but actually bringing that to the Xbox app is likely going to be a game by game basis like they did with 360 games, which they will stop as soon as they run into to many licensing issues.

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