One thing is disappointing about all this. Xbox gives the competition four games, with more to come, we all know this will happen. Yet absolutely ZERO in return. I wonder if Phil tried, but just couldn’t get either of the two to agree, sigh.
Was watching a video just now and he said it is kinda crazy how Sony now has the bigger MP game with Helldivers 2, and here comes Xbox helping them out with even more MP with SoT and Grounded. You’d think they want to “steal” players from Sony, not help them.
But it’s clear this competitive Xbox is just gone now. We’ll see how it pans out.
Helldivers 3 is not the biggest MP multiplayer. It is like a fire comet right now.
Let us see how long the hype sustains. Remember that some Gaas are running for years.
That’s really just because of how you look at it. They are giving something up and should get something back. Their perspective is they aren’t giving up something, they are making money in their competitors backyard and can use that money to green light sequels to these games, fund other games, fund Game Pass deals, etc.
True, right now. And apparently the biggest success is on PC, but PS5 version had/has issues, so I wonder how it will do once the issues are gone.
Yep, that’s true. As a customer I would have loved something in return, but like you said, if new games and GP deals truly get funded that way…i guess there isn’t even much reason to be to bothered about it. I hope that’s indeed the case.
He definitely could have made better effort if he really wanted to just throw it away, but it’s all for clicks. He’s undoubtedly playing on it again too.
I know of no one in my circle of friends who is actually playing that game and I have 0 interest in it to be honest, doesn’t seem like the kind of GAAS I’d see myself investing in for the long term, the aesthetics are not that fun too look at to be honest and I feel I’d be wasting my money.
I see Helldiver as the cool thing right now until something else comes along but I don’t think it’ll have legs in the long term like PUBG or Apex and the like.
Nice to see I’m not the only one with 0 excitement or interest in anything Xbox now, just no reason to be a part or it. Kinda like a failing sports team going in a bad direction.
I won’t suddenly sell my Xbox or even buy a PS5. I’m simpling not going to be in either platforms system as I move over to Steam.
I really don’t understand how one could feel like that right now. Between Gamepass and all the first party releases this year, I feel like Xbox is the place to be the most excited about his year to be honest. If one games exclusively on PC they always get everything, but if you are on console I have no idea how you get that feeling.
I agree with you. It sounds way too soon to be making such decisions, way too soon. Had it been the whole Gears collection of games or something like Halo Infinite I guess I could understand people really worrying about the future of Xbox.
But it only just begun, and for all we know it’s very old titles once again next time. Maybe we do get to a point where Xbox truly doesn’t have exclusives anymore but that is still years away I am sure.
I think these events are causing people to realize that they have far too much emotional investment in a video game platform and are pulling back/losing interest in Xbox as a platform (not necessarily the games) as a result. If that is what’s happening to people, I think that’s a good thing. Free yourself from the US vs them mentality and enjoy gaming for what it provides, games and not a competition between market players.
If stuff like this causes you to lose interest in the games themselves that’s proof that someone needs to do what I mentioned in the first paragraph lol.
Games are what it’s all about in the end. Xbox has understood that mentality by giving you access on all devices and even on other stores like Steam and now doing a few tests on Nintendo and PS. The funny thing is it’s not anything new, I mean Disney has and still does release some movies on Netflix and Prime for example, just not their new stuff. And Netflix and Disney still also let you buy their movies on different digital platforms and on disc.
People are too much into the console wars stuff and I get that, but in the end I think the people that have that mentality, as weird as it might seem, are I think the old timers and they’re on the way out and as the gaming landscape changes so do the rules and I feel like we are seeing a big shift and MS is just way ahead of the curve as usual.
MS are doing those movies deliberately. Even before when they started adding stuff on PC and some were saying they’d stop buying an Xbox and telling Phil, as if they had figured out some kind of loophole, and Phil saying “that’s fine, that’s exactly what we want you to do”. The reality is they were already on that path and are not doing it because they’re bad at managing what they do, but because they see a path forward in terms of growth by doing this.
Yesterday Mort in the podcast’s chat said that this whole situation is weird or something along those lines, how the whole thing leaked then we had the PR video and after that seeing the titles being ready to go much sooner than we all initially thought. So if the leaks didn’t happen we would see Grounded, SoT, Pentiment and HFR casually announced for the competition on a random thursday/3rd party Direct? could you imagine? they can’t be THAT out of touch right?
Also after all this PR talk about testing the waters in the business update they decided to put HFR on PS5 three days before Rise of the Ronin and Dragon’s Dogma 2? who genius’s idea was to put an already niche title three days before two big AAA releases (with one being a PS5 exclusive too)? are they truly giving these games a chance as multiplatform releases or was this more PR fluff? such a weird situation indeed.
All I’ll say about this new “every screen is an Xbox” phase of MS is this: I am not burning my Xbox consoles and games, I am playing games on my Xbox just fine, I am still excited about the upcoming 1st party games BUT this is the first time as an Xbox customer (and I am using this specific word to match their “business” update) that I feel uncertainty and lost trust in the brand. Will their (semi? full?) multiplatform plan be successful? I don’t know but my hundreds of Xbox games/Gamertag sure hope so. Maybe I am a 42 year old console gamer-dinosaur who can’t get with the times but as of now I don’t understand how this change of plans will benefit (or at the very least not affect in a negative way) the platform and in extension me as their customer. As others already said many times here in this thread let’s wait and see how this pans out…since we cannot do anything more than.
The argument has always been that success for the business results in increased investment which benefits players. In this scenario, we could see increased income being put to use to green light new games, add content to Game Pass, acquire additional studios/publishers (adding content to Game Pass as a result).
We’ll have to see how it pans out I guess. If it’s unsuccessful it’ll suck for everyone, if its successful then folks that aren’t into the console war could be along for an interesting ride.
I’m mostly relaxed about the move now as I don’t think it’ll be day and date, and it’s helped me realise Xbox isn’t going to escape third place so if I want the widest range of games I have to also be multi-platform.
But I’m under no illusion - the money will not be used to fund additional development.
I’d almost certainly bet costs don’t go up much more than inflation (particularly given the layoffs) but instead any additional money is used to increase profit, to help Xbox compete in the “profit increased by X%” stakes in the quarterly results and please investors
