Lets see how SOT and grounded perform but I think their GAAS should be day one everywhere yes. If those underperfom its because of to the late release, you have to take advantage when a game is in the zeitgeist and GAAS/multiplayer games generally do their biggest numbers in the first weeks/months.
Idk I’m sure Xbox as a console will be fine but I don’t see it being a main console for most players maybe a side console for gamepass and PS as the main console. Sony will basically have everything and 3rd party’s will skip Xbox even more then they do now.
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That would be great, secondary console would be a great way to expand in this market.
For all we know MS could play a reverse UNO card and their next ‘console’ could be a streamlined Windows machine which would run Windows store but also allow Steam.
All of a sudden they will have better 3rd party support then PS or Nintendo. Have the majority of PS exclusives, Valve exclusives and some of the third party Nintendo ones too!
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I just don’t see how that will get people to start getting interested in Xbox. I personally hope that it’s just these four games for this year, they take it slow from there, baby steps and certainly not start too soon with day and date releases, because that is not how you get new people on board with Xbox. PS players don’t mind buying games, so they won’t get Xbox hardware, unless they know they might have to wait a year or longer for certain big games.
Spencer probably didn’t only mean Xbox the hardware when he said that, he probably just meant Xbox in general. For years Xbox is being referred to as a brand now, not only the console.
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If you want to gaming on a platform that tends not to get skipped over (except for maybe Rockstar games at launch) PC is the place to play.
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Do you really think porting these four games, anywhere between 1-6 years after their initial release, is really going to get that many people over to Xbox? None of these games were enough to get non-Xbox/gamepass owners to get one/subscribe to play them, so if any of these games get a sequel, specifically Hi-Fi Rush since they only had to wait a year, they’ll just wait for the port, if it isn’t day-and-date by that time.
The fact that these games are all coming out by April tells you these ports have been worked on for a while. In the case of Hi-Fi Rush, the decision to resume the port had to have happened likely less than six months after the release. If they really are going to sit and see how these perform as a “test,” that means you won’t see anymore ports until late 2025/2026 most likely and I just don’t see that happen. I’d be shocked if the next ports aren’t already being worked on, especially if they want them to release sometime next year.
The way I see it, Xbox will ease its users into not having (many) exclusives. It won’t be like PC where Phil Spencer said all their games won’t go to PC and then shortly after we saw it was every game day-and-date. It’ll be more gradual, but that’s what I personally think will happen over a number of years. And what you said about Xbox is exactly why they’ll do it. Xbox is brand, a platform, not a console anymore. They can make all the hardware they want, but they obviously don’t care much about the console itself. It matters in that it gets them more users/customers, but that’s it. They care about getting as many people in their ecosystem, regardless of what console it is on. They’re basically betting the hit in console sales is negated by the revenue brought in from other platforms.
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I wonder what the next batch of games are because there is def going to be more than 4 games being ported over to Playstation and Nintendo.
It would be cool if they’re able to port over flight simulator because that would be cool on PSVR2
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Having all four games on other consoles before we even get our first exclusive of the year in Hellblade feels like a bit of a slap in the face tbh. Playstation are already having an incredible year without a single first party release. Xbox could never do that.
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Lol, the 10 minute slow down is back. All I’m gonna say is that dropping these on Xbox’s “slow” months( just talking about first party, no Palworld etc), while PS is getting Helldivers II, Rise of Ronin, and third party timed exclusives such as FFVII rebirth in addition to new Xbox games coming to PlayStation, is not a good idea and doesn’t instill even a slight of confidence on the brand in general. Almost insulting to be frank.
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Seriously doubt PS5/VR2 is anywhere close to powerful enough to run Flight Sim, pretty sure the game is 30fps on Series X
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It does devalue the Xbox hardware. It gives people less of a reason to get one.
Get the PS5 if you want PlayStation and Xbox games. Get the Series X if you want just Xbox games, albeit via Game Pass which is far more affordable. I like the latter option but many may just want 2-3 Xbox games so they’ll go with the PS5.
The smaller the userbase for the Xbox, the less likely you’ll see 3rd party games on it with today being an example of that.
So it makes the hardware less desirable. Though you’re right about the software making more money.
Having some time to think about it (it helps to sleep on stuff so we’re not jumping to brash conclusions) I think this is a mistake by MS.
MS got impatient and Xbox refused to be aggressive enough when they needed to be. It’s put them in a bad spot.
They got impatient in the sense that MS needs the Xbox business to be making more money, yes, but Xbox needs to be allowed to have their plan followed through. This year is the first in which we’re going to see their investments pay off with potentially TWO system seller (killer apps, as some call them) coming out. I’ve never seen this many “looks like I need to get an Xbox” comments online ever. The following years will be as good if not better. MS isn’t looking at long term success.
Secondly, Xbox and MS weren’t aggressive in getting 3rd party exclusives (essentially abandoning the idea) or pushing back against regulators in the idea that they have the right to make content exclusive as it is what has made them less competitive.
Let’s just say that Xbox bought ABK and was making the new CoD exclusive. That this year they’d have that to add to Indiana Jones and Hellblade 2. In a year where Sony has nothing comparable. That 2:1 ratio starts to even out.
The PC cannibalized Xbox sales but it could be justifiable because the product is pretty different. The same could be argued with the Switch. But not so with the PS5.
I could understand these moves made in 2025 where Indiana Jones, Hellblade 2, and CoD on Game Pass did nothing to push the needle. But they never even tried. That’s the scary part.
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Yup, they jumped the gun again too fast, an action they have done many times in the past and have failed even though long term they were right in a sense. I think it’s just the higher ups within Microsoft being greedy. Being the most valuable company in the world is not enough, and they have to keep pushing the limits so they can make more revenue and honestly it is capitalism at its worst. The sad part is that Xbox fans( the ones who care about the console at least) will be the sacrificial lamb for their greedy ambitions.
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Why do 3rd party deals for PlayStation count but not Xbox? Those types of qualifiers are ridiculous.
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Maybe if Xbox did it would count, you can’t count what doesn’t exist.
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Game Pass deals count, they had the biggest game of the year on their platform day one.
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Palworld vs everything he listed. Third party deals, like FF7 Rebirth and Foamstars, were lumped in with Helldivers 2 and Rise of the Ronin. It isn’t a great look for Xbox to port over four games to PlayStation (and two to Nintendo) before giving their own console anything. Gamepass also shouldn’t count because that’s a separate service from their console. That’s like saying “if you want something from us, wait till the end of the year or shell out more money for it.” Gamepass users are having a better start than PS Plus users, but PS5 console owners are having a much better first half than xbox console owners
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I must’ve forgotten the long drought Xbox has been in
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You guys need to find something new, Foamstars was embarrasingly shit. Helldivers 2 took 9 years to make and has been broken since launch, and Rebirth is a deal that hasn’t worked well for them or Square Enix.
PlayStation had jack shit most of this gen, xbox had one bad year in 2022 where their 3 good games weren’t high budget. they’ve still fucking killed it on Game Pass and it’s asinine to pretend otherwise.
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Foamstars was awful and has already been forgotten and RotR is likely about to get the Elden Ring treatment by DD2
Palworld is bigger than all these games too and I don’t buy the GP vs console user, they are the same thing
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