What is true is that in 2024 Xbox first party will have more new games on PlayStation than PlayStation has on their own platform. 
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and you dont think nintendo wants more profits? just like how they were late to online and still do have things like achievements doesnt mean they wont catch up especially once everyone actually starts takeing pieces of its pie
Most people are fine if games are timed. It’s more about the growth and health of the platform. If it’s not hurting the growth and we are getting more third party releases i think it’s fine.
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Of course they are eventually but it’s the long game not the short game they are looking at.
I’ve no doubt starfield and Indiana jones will go multplat 18 months after release
But the bet Xbox is making is by the 18 months is up Xbox have 4,5,6 quality games out that a PlayStation player thinks I want to be in on that as well. Most gamers don’t want to wait that long so may buy a series S to not miss the FOMO or they may have a pc and think I’ll buy it on steam or even sub to gamepass
Because if after the 2nd 3rd 4th game is released on Xbox first they might think, do you know what I don’t want to wait or I don’t want to keep buying these Xbox games at £70 a pop and think fuck if I’ll sub or just buy an Xbox.
Xbox is an oil tanker it needs to back its self to keep making the top games that eventually creates the buzz that it’s too much to actually just wait 12/18months for a game to come to PlayStation
In the same way PlayStation money hats games. If it didn’t work they wouldn’t do it either
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True, however nearly every other comment on Xbox related posts are saying “what are the next four games”.
They really needed to close that door and explain the logic behind it more IMO. The Tom Warren article explains it better that it’s a ‘learning experience’. But how wide will this learning experience expand and how will they assess if it’s positive for the Xbox consumers?
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You can tell Phil and Company were really genuine during the whole podcast. It didn’t feel rehearsed whatsoever.
I trust whatever direction those three take Xbox… anyways ima go boot up my series and finish Resident Evil 2 lol
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But as the xbox leadership said, not at the expense of there console business.
Releasing games on PC does not hurt console and neither will releasing certain games on competing consoles.
And even of they do judge incorrectly and release the next gears on PS5, they will see console sales plummet and realise it was the wrong choice. That would be bad though because customers would not like the lack of platform integrity.
It certainly no easy task getting the right balance of exclsuives, because of the reasons I stated above.
Im not sure I agree with it. I think the xbox leadership may not realise how agressive and cutthroat sony may be.
If it was me calling the shots Im not sure PlayStation alligns with the goals of Xbox and I think I would destroy them the old fashioned way. $30 billion could wipe out PlayStation.
But I dont have the knowledge of xbox leadership, maybe PlayStation are planning somthing similar.
I mean day and date absolutely hurt Xbox sales. It’s part of the reason they’re selling way worse this gen.
I don’t think fomo or gamepass is a strong enough reason to stay with Xbox if the games start hitting ps or Nintendo a year or two after release. Those systems are gonna have a ton of games to tide you over.
They’re gonna have to thread the line very carefully.
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With well over 30 studios I would venture to guess Xbox will have ton of games coming out. I think that’s the point.
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Hmm i can only think of 1 bigger banger than Sea of Thieves, which is FH5, nothing else, curious how this game is either a giant game or just a smaller project depending on the day
…f Starfield would release elsewhere and he said to never say never, not as a sign that it’s coming “wink wink” but that you don’t make any bold statement in the present not knowing what will happen in the future.
I’ll take Sea of Thieves’ example again, about the “but that you don’t make any bold statement in the present not knowing what will happen in the future.”
Matt Booty said around 4 years ago big franchises like Halo, GoW, or yes, Sea of Thieves, wouldn’t make it to Playstation, so yes you can say it if that’s your plan by then, things change and nobody is crushing him for this.
Just people on the internet trying to spin this into something it’s not.
People’s using common sense and reading between lines, we already know MS’s PR talk, a lot, we know their vagueness, they could have said they wouldn’t release big games on PS5, but yea, they can’t for obvious reasons, they could have been much less vague when asked than “I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform.”
You know where there’s no questions? on every Xbox first party game going day 1 to Gamepass, there was 0 vagueness there, just a “Yep, every future game from us is going there on day 1”. They can be very clear if they want to also.
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You may need only to be patient. The ongoing game drought will either lose faith among their fans or they will spend themselves into the red.
Gaming media absolutely blew this up starting 2 weeks ago and caused all the overreaction and fed it. This is the last time that anyone should ever listen to any members of the gaming media on any rumors, speculation, unconfirmed announcements etc.
Gaming media is purely clickbaiting and gas lighting gamers.
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Did it? Is there many would be Xbox players who decided to play on PC instead. Maybe but its speculation. Sony releasing there games on PC has not seemed to be slowing them down. I still think PC gamers and console games are quite seperate user bases, do not forget that the vast majority of gamers are causals, who work on there macs/pc’s/tablets and game on a console.
If its games like pentiment, grounded, hifi rush and sea of thieves at least a year later the games Xbox has in there current and upcoming portfolio are absolutely enough of a draw, well in comparison to sonys line up this year. Its the spidermans, last of us and god of wars which really drive PlayStation along with there marketing (which they spend more then xbox on for some bizarre reason) i think Xbox is lagging because they are just dont have good sales people.
I think sony did a better job early with lots of marketing, returnal, rift apart, and horizon forbidden west., with these things they pushed “next gen” to the masses better then Xbox did.
Even though Xbox has a lot of strengths which I think are untapped. I think the hardware with quick resume is better, its generally more powerful, its generally a quieter box, halo infinite is the one of best mp games at the moment, no other mp game today has the refreshing old school feel and gameplay has infinite does. I nusy think they needed advertise more (uefa and fifa football sponsorship, millions of twitterbots, and 5x more adverts then PlayStation, get the media onboard etc)
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I think many of us predicted this before the show - there is no clear and simple logic they can apply or communicate to us as an audience. What we got was a simple and honest answer - they’re still figuring it out, but exclusives are still the priority.
People are worried about what online comments are gonna say on the matter but the simple answer is they are gonna announce games, release them day one on Xbox and game pass and then maybe, MAYBE a little bit down the line it will come to another console too. If people like the games they make and want to play them, Xbox is still gonna be the definitive place for them.
I said this before somewhere, but I think their approach is gonna be much like Sony with PC games. I think Sony, by design, keeps their PC release structure inconsistent so as best to prioritise console sales. Because yeah, when the hot new game comes out you COULD wait for the PC release - but you don’t know when or if that is even coming. I think this structure ensures that they prioritise console game sales as much as possible, but still make the extra revenue of a PC release. I think it’ll be the same here.
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Well that is the point of these initial 4, to gauge any meaningful benefit. If they had said “No, no big games forever” …then that would have made this initial test meaningless.
Pentiment isn’t going to sell on anything. I don’t even know why thats there. As for the other three…well, historically late ports don’t sell. SoT is very late and in its sunset years, Grounded …more recent, Rush is too recent for my liking.
IMO Pentiment will be a failure, SoT and Grounded will receive minor bumps and extend their service lives by 6-12 months at most. Rush will sell 350,000 copies between PS5 and Switch 2.
If Microsoft deems that a success, and many more games come, that will be a shame.
But if they chuck Spyro the Dragon Infinite on Switch 2 a year after launch, that won’t break any hearts.
I’m more inclined to believe, what “leaked” was a consideration list of every first party Xbox game over the last 10 years and 5 ahead…not that there was a meaningful decision applied to any of them. People got the list and assumed “OMG, they are porting everything” when the truth is just everything was being considered.
I find it interesting how Phil did not say which four of the games they are, yet during the podcast (I watched via XboxEra) I saw a notification on their screen appearing that the games are Pentiment, Grounded, HFR and SoT. So, those are 100% it? From here on out I will be way more focused on official news.
The biggest thing for me was explaining cleary that the industry is changing many are not seeing it.
They don’t expect exclusives to be a thing in 5 years time
They were pushing hard that it’ll be numerous devices with cross saves and you don’t have to buy twice to play on pc as well, these are digs at PlayStation as they are lagging the same with back compat.
If the journos had any sense they would see this and acknowledge it
The thing annoyed me about the starfield and Indiana jones rumours was putting them on now before they’d given the exclusives a chance this year with Indiana jones and the release of COD on gamepass which may drive subs. That’s not happening now so it’s all good.
It’s the long game PlayStation are still working short term
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social media posts like that only have any meaning or value if you let them. Ignore and dont not read them otherwise you give value to these kinds of posts.
The door wont be closed because one day “xbox” and PlayStation are just going to be apps. Like netflix, Disney+, prime video etc
But I get it, it does seem Xbox are expirimenting by what games they can release on ps5 without damaging the xbox console business. Which does create a certain uncertainty because new experiments do not have a certain outcome.
However they gave detailed explanations of there intentions
Based on what they said they dont intend to port games which drive the Xbox console.
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That’s fair, I think the bigger point was clarifying that both Starfield and Indiana Jones were not going anywhere, if they hadn’t done that it would have been much worse.
Live services games definitely make more sense to expand to other platforms, which I’m sure they will ‘learn’ from this experiment.
Presumably if the single player games don’t sell sufficiently they may ditch porting over further single player games entirely. Unless they also try experimenting with bigger single player games like Hellblade 2.
With the amount of upcoming exclusives it will likely get to a point that by the time they do release a former exclusive to PS/Switch they are also releasing a further 4-5 exclusives on Xbox.
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Hold on, they said hardware info this holiday? If that digital only XSX and new controller are still to come out you’d think they would have said “releasing this holiday”, hmmm.
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