The Big ol' Xbox 3rd Party Releases Discussion Thread (HiFi, SoT, Pentiment, Grounded) (Part 1)

[Jeans]

@Shellshock

Wouldnt be surprised at all to see Forza Motorsport be ported since Turn10 spent 6 years making such a flop.

[Haven (Victor)]

@MasterChief

I would bet money on this not happening, hell I bet PlayStation is still here as a console by 2040, even if Sony by then has embraced a PC/Streaming/Console strategy, PlayStation isn’t showing signs of slowing down and the more people lose faith in Xbox by Microsoft still having no idea how to manage a console market and not hiring the right people for that a lot of Xbox console users will just move to PlayStation, PS4 I believe sold 117-120 million consoles, I’m convinced now that PS5 will do better than that and PS6 will have even less trouble especially if Xbox embraces releasing all of their games on the PlayStation as well, whether it’s at launch or not it will have a negative impact on their console market share.

I doubt it pretty much, technology is advancing. Right now you have TVs beginning to implement game streaming, it’s only a matter of time before they start playing games nartively eliminating the use of consoles. Also console sold does not equal the users. Many hardcre gmers buy multiple consoles, many here will tell you they have 2, 3 maybe even more PS5s or series X/S consoles. Those console numbers don’t translate to users that engage and spend. Then you also have the reports that Sony has slashed their production from a million to 500,000 with a 17% drop in Uk and similar in the US. Consoles are just not growing especially in a market that has imitators and then there is Apple with their M chips already able to play current gen at low fidelity. What happens when they incorporate a better chip in the Apple TV. We all know how crazy Apple fandom their Apple Arcade is even way over 100 million subs. I certainly think consoles are important as a foundation, but I think the wise thing is to use it to expand as much as possible.

[FacelessSamurai]

@Haven

…equal the users. Many hardcre gmers buy multiple consoles, many here will tell you they have 2, 3 maybe even more PS5s or series X/S consoles. Those console numbers don’t translate to users that engage and spend. Then you also have the reports that Sony has slashed their production from a million to 500,000 with a 17% drop in Uk and similar in the US. Consoles are just not growing especially in a market that has imitators and then there is Apple with their M chips already able to play current gen at low fidelity. What happens when they incorporate a better chip in the Apple TV. We all know how crazy Apple fandom their Apple Arcade is even way over 100 million subs. I certainly think consoles are important as a foundation, but I think the wise thing is to use it to expand as much as possible.

Are you telling me there are traitors on this board who own a console other than an Xbox?

[JD_URAMESHI (Jordan)]

@Shellshock

It was the 17th best selling game in October 2023 in the US. It didnt chart well in most played lists and is currently out in the top 50 in the US. Overwhelmingly negative reviews on steam. Peak concurrent on steam is 4500.

So no, its not my opinion. By every measurable result it failed for a AAA games 6 years in the making. My personal thoughts have zero to do with that.

I just tell us how you really feel. Oh geez buddy! So terrible. This one game is going to never get better. Nope, not at all

[pg2g]

I’m pretty happy with FM, was kinda buggy early in (PC) but the racing feels great and they’ve been adding on content at a decent clip IMO. It’s not a game I play regularly though, hop on occasionally for a few races.

[Joe_Sinister1 (Joe_Sinister)]

@Shadowgasm

…every 10 Xbox games ended up on other platforms, would that really be the end of the world? Even if it was 5 out of 10, Xbox would still be releasing more exclusives per year than they have in the past. If you were buying an Xbox when they were releasing one real exclusive per year, why would you suddenly find it unacceptable if they were only releasing 2 or 3? And this doesn’t even take into account that those games going to other platforms would presumably be timed exclusives on Xbox anyway. Seriously, if you just map it out, nothing would really have changed except we get more games in Gamepass. Anyway, I hope we get a better understanding next week. I think the people demanding they give ironclad guarantees and spell everything out in black and white are going to be disappointed though.

I’m still confused as to why they can’t just let Activision and Blizzard’s games remain multiplatform and call it a day? Also the fact that as others have brought up Sony still aggressively seeks to keep games off of Xbox, it just makes the platform worse. Why get an xbox and miss out on games when you can buy a PS5 or PC and not miss out in this theoretical landscape where MS is putting their games on PS5. At least with ABK these games were always multiplatform. COD alone would make them far more money on launch week that SOT and HFR would in a lifetime. So is it really worth destroying consumer confidence for that?

That’s the biggest thing for me, less console’s sold leading to less third party support and I’m not talking big AAA’s that we know won’t skip, it’s everything else. They were saying KI going multiplatform would be a good idea. If every fighter should be multiplatform to be successful why did it take so long for Guilty Gear to finally come back to Xbox. Why isn’t DNF Duel on Xbox? Why can’t we get the re releases of Games like KOF 13 or P4 Arena Ultimax? ( yeah I’m still sore about that one )

Maybe if MS made more of an effort to get less games to skip the console , people might not be so resistant to the idea of games going elsewhere. Not everything is about “console wars” sometimes consumers don’t want to feel like they’re getting a lesser product.

[FacelessSamurai]

@Joe_Sinister1

…destroying consumer confidence for that? That’s the biggest thing for me, less console’s sold leading to less third party support and I’m not talking big AAA’s that we know won’t skip, it’s everything else. They were saying KI going multiplatform would be a good idea. If every fighter should be multiplatform to be successful why did it take so long for Guilty Gear to finally come back to Xbox. Why isn’t DNF Duel on Xbox? Why can’t we get the re releases of Games like KOF 13 or P4 Arena Ultimax? ( yeah I’m still sore about that one ) Maybe if MS made more of an effort to get less games to skip the console , people might not be so resistant to the idea of games going elsewhere. Not everything is about “console wars” sometimes consumers don’t want to feel like they’re getting a lesser product.

ABK games stay multiplat, Bethesda games should get at least 1 year exclusivity, and XGS games stay exclusive. But all should be Day 1 Gamepass. Would make Xbox relavant imo and maximize profits.

[Resist]

@Shellshock

Yeah, I dont think anyone would care about it going to PS5. Its already pretty forgotten, might as well try to make some money.

Its still wild to me that they gave a promotion to Alan Hartman after its release. People really be failing up in Xbox.

You have no idea what the hell you be talking about. No one failed upward.

[nrXic]

@Shellshock

So no, its not my opinion. By every measurable result it failed for a AAA games 6 years in the making. My personal thoughts have zero to do with that.

Well you’re definitely wrong about it being 6 years in the making. It’s only been 3 years in development.

[MaulerX]

“Businesses update event”

• Jez reported that Microsoft shut down departments dedicated to bringing Xbox games to physical retail.

• The report that Walmart was purging Starfield physical discs.

• Similar reports out of Europe with some retailers regarding Xbox physical games.

• Xbox players are already mostly digital and they have the metrics to prove it.

Announcing they’re going all digital would qualify as a paradigm shift with the way they conduct their business as opposed to their competitors. Could this be part of what they’re going to talk about?

[NierlyCrazy]

@MaulerX

“Businesses update event”

• Jez reported that Microsoft shut down departments dedicated to bringing Xbox games to physical retail.

• The report that Walmart was purging Starfield physical discs.

• Similar reports out of Europe with some retailers regarding Xbox physical games.

• Xbox players are already mostly digital and they have the metrics to prove it.

Announcing they’re going all digital would qualify as a paradigm shift with the way they conduct their business as opposed to their competitors. Could this be part of what they’re going to talk about?

Potentially (although I think part of that was exaggerated, right?). You have to hope they have some exciting things to say there too, otherwise it’d be a bit awkward if its a bunch of “Here’s a papercut announcement”, followed by another.

Next week shall be interesting indeed.

[EPC]

@FacelessSamurai

Steam deck has sold millions, honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if that starts replacing console sales as well in the near future, if it hasn’t already considering the low price point and ease of use.

Steamdeck is a niche market. A few millions units do not replace a console market where the sales are deceiving if you do not reach 50 millions units.

[Staffy]

I especially don’t want to see Starfield happening because I really rather not see BGS wasting time on PS platforms, even if this version is probably quite far along. If they were to decide to develop TES VI for PS5/6 too, it would only make the wait longer. No please.

You want these games? You can an Xbox or PC.

[IrishXbox]

@MaulerX

“Businesses update event”

• Jez reported that Microsoft shut down departments dedicated to bringing Xbox games to physical retail.

• The report that Walmart was purging Starfield physical discs.

• Similar reports out of Europe with some retailers regarding Xbox physical games.

• Xbox players are already mostly digital and they have the metrics to prove it.

Announcing they’re going all digital would qualify as a paradigm shift with the way they conduct their business as opposed to their competitors. Could this be part of what they’re going to talk about?

Who will trust an all-digital Xbox with continued talk of Micrsoft pulling out?

[Vivir]

@Shellshock

It was the 17th best selling game in October 2023 in the US. It didnt chart well in most played lists and is currently out in the top 50 in the US. Overwhelmingly negative reviews on steam. Peak concurrent on steam is 4500.

So no, its not my opinion. By every measurable result it failed for a AAA games 6 years in the making. My personal thoughts have zero to do with that.

It definitely flopped but this ain’t the thread for this.

[IrishXbox]

@Haven

When I say unified, I’m mean like Steam. Instead of the windows store have the Xbox store replace it, this way all your library moves over since it’s still the same store. The idea of the unifying comes with those that use the stores differently for example those on PC with no Xbox will still get the chance to be integrated and play their games on console if they want. Right now, you have Play Anywhere but it is only for first party and a few games while with Steam the Deck can handle almost everything depending on the specs. When I say console ceiling pretty much just talking about relevancy. The 200 million console market is not growing and now we’re seeing sales slashed and less console buying with huge drops.

Oh I get you. Yeah, Microsoft Store app is horrible and needs work.

I don’t get you on the console ceiling at all. How many more consoles do you need than 200 million? Not everyone in the world wants to play big-budget AAA games that take 60 hours to finish It’s not like we’re seeing massive growth in the PC sector if you look at Windows profits. It’s getting to the point where everyone who wants a PC has one the same for Smart Phones

200 million users is more than enough the issue is most of them are SONY sadly. Unless Xbox looks to address its pitiful PR it’s not going to begin to fix issues

Just look at Starfield you could have had a week-long NASA style advertising countdown to build up hype and excitement and let the world know the game is coming. Instead, we got nothing

And on the day XBox’s name is in the gutter. Sarah Bond says nothing and thinks it’s a good time for her to tweet a pic of her freebie game off SEGA.

Does anyone at XBox understand PR?

[EPC]

Starfield - I bet it will happen - is a bad idea since it will kill any news about ES6 exclusivity.

Anyway, I think we are talking too late, Xbox is already dead in Japan and in the European community market.

[EPC]

I do not know what will happen next week, but any port news or breach of exclusivity will be trumpeted and exaggerated to death by the Sony mediasphere as the death of Xbox. What you have seen this week is just a taste of what’s to come. I hope Spencer knows what he will get in return.

[Got-A-Stew-Going]

@nrXic

The userbase isn’t going to shrink. If it sells between 20-40 million units there is still a good reason to port games over.

So what you’re saying is that the user base is shrinking. Got it.

20 - 40 million is less than Xbox One and Xbox 360.

[EPC]

@Got-A-Stew-Going

So what you’re saying is that the user base is shrinking. Got it.

20 - 40 million is less than Xbox One and Xbox 360.

As for X1, i would know how much the mid-gen refresh sold, since I bet it sold to X1 owners increasing the total units without increasing the userbase.