You’re implying the xbox community in your country comprises 3 people? 
Regarding the PS5 slim - it’s supply and demand, really. We don’t get angry when other electronics companies charge premium, it’s really a non-issues. I doubt Sony makes a ton on each console sold either.
The vertical stand is super scammy though, Sony is selling a solution to a problem Sony itself created.
https://x.com/deeketweak/status/1712245625809461469?s=46&t=jjXxOoE4yWMd4fG6_-MQMQ
I agree with this take.
I still don’t personally own a PS5, I have been contemplating getting one but I just don’t see the point at the moment.
I still have a PS4 but outside of Insomniac and Naughty Dog there’s nothing which really interests me (in the near future). I’m hoping Wolverine will be a day one PC release, but even if it isn’t I can’t justify getting a PS5 just for Wolverine.
When they eventually release TLOU3 I might be tempted but I was quite disappointed with TLOU2. I might just end up borrowing a PS5 over a weekend to play it.
Hopefully all the games will go PC day one in the future.
I just wonder if they’re going to shift production to produce more digital consoles than physical.
His follow up tweets to that had his own theory on that.
He thinks they marked up the price on the digital console to further push people into buying the physical edition. Sony is in the movie industry and are strong proponents in keeping the blu ray eco system alive plus people who buy the physical console are still overwhelmingly buying digital games. (in North America that is, Europe is still physical games heavy land)
Yeah, I think Europe and Asia are strongly into physical games . I have a friend in the UK, and they said going digital sucks because it cost much more than physical.
Chris Dring and Daniel Ahmed both said Japan and continental Europe is still overwhelmingly physical friendly. Which might explain Xbox’s utter lack of market penetration in those markets.
UK is more aligned with North America in the digital vs physical ratio.
Yea, what Sony fails to understand though is the more you try to keep things the same the less prepared you are when things always change.
Everyone loses in the battle of trying to keeps things the same,
It’s something they’re going to have to figure out. Fortunately for them, Xbox hasn’t closed the gap at all in terms of market share so they have a cushion for the rest of the generation to figure out what they want to be.
PlayStation will inevitably get passed by Xbox in terms of revenue. So unless PC Gamepass just doesn’t really take off which is a legitimate possibility, Sony is eventually going to have to come to terms that they just can’t compete with Tencent or Microsoft when it comes to liquid cash on hand.
It’s going to be fun to see how they navigate being #1 in the console market but also having to evolve or get left behind in the coming years.
Haha, yeah kinda. It’s not that bad now, but last generation? Yeah…
It’s just a slim console, don’t know why it’d be market shaking. I think it’s just weird that they snuck in a price increase and it’s telling for those predicting that the Pro will come in at 499 in a year.
Luckily for me, I already have the original PlayStation 5 disc edition model with my solid black cover plates which does make the console look better and appear smaller. I’m also definitely one of the very few people here that owns a PlayStation 5 and looks forward to playing their exclusives. I was hyped for Starfield which is an excellent game and im hyped for Spider Man 2 which will also be an excellent game, at least for me anyway. But hey, to each their own.
Three years in, I have zero complaints this generation and it’s only going to get better on both sides over the next five years.
I LOVE the hype of a new console generation. To me the $500 PS5 at console launch was completely worth it. 2020 November and December was a real moment in time as a gamer. Cyberpunk on Series X was game of the year. Miles Morales was a well polished short game. And Astrobot was an amazing packin game that had fun little moments of joy. Add in Ubisofts Watchdogs and Assassin’s Creed games. EA and 2K sports games. Yakuza Like a Dragon is the goat jrpg too. If you were a gamer that got both the consoles it was probably the all time best videogame launch in my opinion.
(It’s funny to watch all those salty PlayStation only gamers that trashed the amazing cyberpunk back-in December 2020 memory hole all that salt. They could have just picked up an Xbox instead of trying to destroy CDprojectRed because it performed better on Series X. Then PlayStation joined in with the fanboys and went to war with CDProject by banning thier game… crazy time that was. Cyberpunk played great in December 2020, just needed a series X)
Damn this post is getting long like one of @peter42O s wall of text posts , and I didn’t even get to my main point yet. So my main point is even though I sold my PS5 2 years after launch, it ended up costing almost nothing. Traded it and a controller and God of War Ragnarok for $500 to GameStop. Like buying a console at the correct time is super low risk because you can sell it later but still have all those fun memories for a couple years. 
If CDPR didn’t want the game delisted, they shouldn’t have told people to get refunds. Bioware stayed quiet with Anthem and it was made more stable without delisitng, so did Bethesda with F76. CDPR had to be customer friendly, and no good deed goes unpunished.
PlayStation wouldn’t have delisted a game they had marketing rights to. Deep inside everyone knows this to be true.
Let’s not rewrite history here. PlayStation definitely went to war with CDprojectRed. Those E3 Cyberpunk Xbox conferences were legendary. PlayStation wanted to retaliate, the media was PlayStation bias and whipped up a narrative that (because xbox and PC had the best version) then the game was broken. The gaslighting that still remains from that era of time still permeates to this day. None of it is true, Cyberpunk was game of the year 2020 on PC and Xbox and I will die on that hill 
The problem is that cyberpunk 2077 was a technical disaster if you were playing on PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. If you were lucky enough to have an Xbox Series X or PlayStation 5, then you had a far better experience but compared to PC, nowhere close to what it was there or what it is now after the 2.0 update.
Would Sony have delisted the game if they had the marketing deal for Cyberpunk? Probably not but at the same time, would Microsoft have allowed Cyberpunk if they didn’t have the marketing deal? It goes both ways.
Cyberpunk was a great game at launch on PC and to a lesser extent, Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 but it wasn’t native to the current generation consoles and was meant for PS4 and Xbox One which in that regard, the game was bad, plain and simple. I’m a huge CDPR fan but let’s stop pretending like the game didn’t have issues at launch for the vast majority of console players.
To be blunt. This false line of thought has dragged down this entire console generation.
The game was smart delivery, I see no problem with the old gen version of Cyberpunk being bad compared to the next generation systems. That’s the entire point!
The old consoles are getting old, and new consoles are needed for better experiences. Smart delivery was an elegant solution so consumers could transition eventually to where the game was designed to play.
It’s not a false line of thought. Just because a game has Smart Delivery doesn’t mean that the game has a native version for the current generation consoles. CDPR didn’t release their current generation upgrade until February 2022 so until that day, you were literally playing the Xbox One version on Series X which brute forced through some of the issues the game actually had.
Smart Delivery is only what people think it is IF there’s an actual current generation version of the game available for it which in the case of Cyberpunk (and other games as well in late 2020 and 2021 like Biomutant for example), there wasn’t.
Should CDPR have cancelled the PS4/XBO versions and delayed the game until it was truly ready? Absolutely but they didn’t so it doesn’t matter as it all becomes what if’s and those don’t matter when the reality is that the game was bad on last gen consoles, current gen consoles were better because they were more powerful and brute forced through issues and PC was far superior to them all.
Agree to disagree. I think last Gen consoles should have laughably bad versions of games. That’s how it was always done previously. Sure you might every once in awhile say ‘hey, this game here has an amazing last Gen port, what an achievement’ but that should be the exception, not the norm. Technology moves forward, by the time videogame companies release new hardware the old hardware is basically a beaten down dead horse. Time to move on. So no I don’t agree with you.
I agree with you in regards to “moving on” but we’re talking about Cyberpunk 2077 which launched in December 2020 and while the vast majority of buyers were on PC, second most was PlayStation 4 and third most was Xbox One.
Not everyone moves on at launch especially this generation when you couldn’t get either console day one by just walking into the store. It took me two months to get the Series X and three months to get the PlayStation 5 and that’s only because I looked every day all day to get them.
Last generation versions aren’t all bad though. Look at AC, FC, Sony’s first party games, Forza Horizon 5 and many other examples. Current generation consoles if anything have been underwhelming on BOTH sides. I haven’t seen anything innovative or revolutionary this generation. Wow, we get 60FPS which isn’t even guaranteed (see Starfield) and even then, that’s years later after PC has already had that and more.
If anything, BOTH consoles tech wise are obsolete but because it takes developers at least halfway through the generation to actually start milking them dry, you have to wait. There’s a reason why every generation’s best games are always in the second half and near the end of the life cycle.