I think this is where xbox is better then sony. I think xbox would have finished the game and put it out and keep iterating on it until it’s a profit center (ie sea of theives).
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Not going to lie, but the message from Naughty Dog is a bit bothersome. Why? Because their reason to stop is whether they should be a live service studio or single player, like they set up to be the hero. I don’t know how tight they are but last time I checked, Playground is making a new single player game or possibly one more (Horizon 6), Rare is creating a new game, Obsidian is just going bananas, and many more studios. So I don’t know, that rub me the wrong way.
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Although the right decision( ND is a single player dev), this doesn’t look good on Sony. They are getting left behind by Microsoft in terms of live service games that brings in billions of dollars of revenue. They would hope one of their live service games would be succesful( including Bungie’s), because they will be at the mercy of Microsoft as their top paid game each year is a franchise that belongs to their competitor now.
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ND is just incompetant and understaffed. Dont expect a new game from them until 2028.
Even As Dusk Falls has multiplayer…
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Obsidian literally made a coop multiplayer game with like 20 people lol.
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They just made Forge. lol.
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https://x.com/mj__hernandez/status/1735451958129918355?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ
Not even a day. Holy moly.
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https://x.com/jasonschreier/status/1735453464539398446?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ
The problem is this was announced. If we hear say Guerrilla cancelled their live service game, it will be like “Oh okay.” Why? Because it was never announced. Factions was AND got a showcase closer from Geoff. This is Sony’s version of Scalebound or Fable Legends.
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This definitely should get a Scalebound type of scrutiny, but they won’t for obvious reasons.
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https://x.com/sheepgomoo/status/1735454284135665789?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ
People celebrate for cancellation but stuff like this is why I see it as damning news.
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Very smart of them to frame it as an either/or. “We couldn’t do both so we chose to release these two new single player games instead of Factions.” They know a lot of their fans didn’t care about Factions anyway (myself included) so will greet this as positive news.
Two problems: 1. Plenty of other studios seem able to support single and multi player projects. Certainly doesn’t seem like a given that Naughty Dog supporting a multi player game means they couldn’t release single player games anymore. 2. Talk is cheap. As of now those two new single player games are exactly as real as Factions (aka vaporware). I’ll congratulate ND when the game is real.
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To be fair, launching and supporting a live service game is a legitimate challenge and I don’t blame the teams behind a lot of these failed attempts. I think people underestimate the scale and the development infrastructure that goes into supporting the likes of Fortnite, and how easy it is to stumble at launch without a proper support structure and never recover.
That said, I do find the overall statement to be a little pandering in it’s attempt to put a positive spin on this. I’ll be more than happy to see them keep making single player content, but I don’t exactly feel like they deserve praise for not doing the thing they were actively trying to do for the past 3 years.
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Agreed. I had some fun with Uncharted 2 and 3 multiplayer, it seems a shame they couldn’t have just made a self-contained mode since that’s probably all a lot of people wanted in the first place.
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Why did it have to be live service? Why couldnt they have just done a basic cool multiplayer game and slapped it on tlou2 remaster?
I blame jim ryan.
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I’ll give you Obsidian who are great but Playground Games has two studios, main one has been developing nothing but Forza Horizon while the new studio’s first game release will be Fable. As for Rare, they showed Everwild 4 years ago and haven’t shown anything since July 2020 so 3 1/2 years later, who’s knows what’s going on with that game.
As for Naughty Dog, they’re not wrong. Sony trying to make them into something they’re not never made any sense whatsoever and to have Bungie come in telling Naughty Dog what to do makes even less sense considering the fact that Bungie can’t even manage themselves.
For Factions, what Sony/Naughty Dog should have done is that instead of cancelling it, scale it down and include it with TLOUP3 like the original game was in 2013 and go from there. If it does awesome, have a small team release maps and whatnot and if not, after a year or so, move on.
For me personally, im very happy that Factions was cancelled because in all honesty, I don’t want the main core studios doing this live service garbage as not every game needs to be that. And I don’t care about Sony’s profits or lack there of as that’s their problem, not mine.
Just give me TLOUP3 and a new IP from Naughty Dog and I will be more than happy.
Showing concept art for Factions compared to gameplay for Fable Legends and multiple trailers for Scalebound aren’t even remotely close to being the same thing. Come on man.
This for the most part except I would have scaled it down and added it to TLOUP3.
The point was the fact the game was announced and been waited on for a while. The only difference is obviously had footages, but the point still stands. One game was announced publicly to everyone, social media or not. Investors included. Now they hear this, this will be bad news in the upcoming investor call.
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If anything, I think it will be good news for the investors because having a studio create, develop and maintain a live service game which is what Naughty Dog doesn’t do has already cost them money, time and resources that could have been better spent on either TLOUP3 or a new single player IP.
Sony should cancel majority of their live service games. If it was me, I would only keep the games from the studios that normally do these types of games or were built to do so like Jade Raymond’s Haven Studio. Rest I would eliminate. And if anything, Sony should acquire a few studios that do live service games and just let them continue like Bungie but without looking over any of the other studios because that’s just stupid.
As much as im not a fan of Druckmann, in no way, shape or form should Sony have had them do a live service game and even more so, have Bungie look over the game as if they’re perfect. In this regard, I would always side with Druckmann and Naughty Dog because their games are great while Sony’s management is trying to force a square peg into a round hole and Bungie is a disaster that appears to be imploding.
Either way, im happy. Let’s get back to basics which for most of Sony’s studios is what they do best - single player games which is what I want and prefer them to do.
Actually, to me factions is actually worse. Factions was announced 10 years ago (where has the years gone?). It took them 10 years to realize things wasn’t going well?
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