Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard Discussion Thread (Part 1)

[Cyclonesweep]

@KakkaKarrotKake

As soon as the Sony deal ends, CoD from 2025 on will be day 1 on GP

Can we please stop these absolutely god awful takes

It might be. Microsoft would lose a ton doing that.

[KakkaKarrotKake]

@Cyclonesweep

It might be. Microsoft would lose a ton doing that.

So you think they are going to bring every single first party game to GP Day 1 but not CoD?

Guess Starfield and ES6 will no longer be Day 1 on GP

[Cyclonesweep]

@Sparda3g

I know CoD is the main focus in terms of why Sony is scared, but you do know ABK is more than that. That’s why it needs to be freed from the shackle of CoD.

But they won’t free it, we all know that. Maybe some ip will be freed and given to other studios but Xbox will keep the CoD train running.

[Cyclonesweep]

@KakkaKarrotKake

So you think they are going to bring every single first party game to GP Day 1 but not CoD?

I could see that for sure. The day 1 sales for cod is too high for them to change it. CoD is its own beast. Maybe the single player will be free but multiplayer paid.

[pg2g]

@Cyclonesweep

My point at the end of the day is this acquisition won’t bring any benefits to Xbox gamers except maybe no more content locked behind PlayStation for CoD. This is all just money for Microsoft. That’s it. So at the end of the day this deal going thru or not is meaningless for gamers.

Except maybe these games coming on gamepass but I could definitely see CoD not coming in gamepass day 1. They wouldn’t throw money away like that.

Lol, you are on a record for most bad takes in a week span.

[Ace_Maverick]

@pg2g

Lol, you are on a record for most bad takes in a week span.

Agreed

[Cyclonesweep]

@pg2g

Lol, you are on a record for most bad takes in a week span.

Y’all keep saying that but haven’t brought up anything in the contrary.

[KakkaKarrotKake]

@Cyclonesweep

I could see that for sure. The day 1 sales for cod is too high for them to change it. CoD is its own beast. Maybe the single player will be free but multiplayer paid.

Lets ignore how absolutely terrible that would look for MS, Xbox and GP and the fact it goes against everything in their GP and gaming strategy

But CoD as much money as it makes from retail sales, makes shit ton from DLC/MTX, the more people they can get playing CoD Day 1 on xbox/GP the more people they will reach potentially spending money on MTX and making their money back that way

CoD day 1 on GP will mean less sales on Xbox absolutely but it also means more subscriptions to GP and more MTX sold

Can’t believe you’re even entertaining this idea, it’s the same logic people were using for not bringing Starfield/ES/Bethesda games to Playstation, MS couldn’t possibly take that loss

It’s utter nonsense

[Ace_Maverick]

@Cyclonesweep

My point at the end of the day is this acquisition won’t bring any benefits to Xbox gamers except maybe no more content locked behind PlayStation for CoD. This is all just money for Microsoft. That’s it. So at the end of the day this deal going thru or not is meaningless for gamers.

Except maybe these games coming on gamepass but I could definitely see CoD not coming in gamepass day 1. They wouldn’t throw money away like that.

Sorry, but…

[Cyclonesweep]

@KakkaKarrotKake

… Lets ignore how absolutely terrible that would look for MS, Xbox and GP and the fact it goes against everything in their GP and gaming strategy But CoD as much money as it makes from retail sales, makes shit ton from DLC/MTX, the more people they can get playing CoD Day 1 on xbox/GP the more people they will reach potentially spending money on MTX and making their money back that way CoD day 1 on GP will mean less sales on Xbox absolutely but it also means more subscriptions to GP and more MTX sold Can’t believe you’re even entertaining this idea, it’s the same logic people were using for not bringing Starfield/ES/Bethesda games to Playstation, MS couldn’t possibly take that loss It’s utter nonsense

CoD is an entirely different beast though. If CoD was Xbox exclusive then I could see it as it would drive Series S and Gamepass subscriptions but if it’s going to be multiplatform, you aren’t going to gain a ton new subscribers that way as the yearly CoD guys will keep purchasing but then you will be losing the sales from the Xbox guys who already have gamepass

[howlingmosquito (mosquito)]

What an absolute take. Microsoft will put CoD on gamepass purely from what it will do for gamepass.

[lunanto]

So it looks like the purchase is getting increasingly harder to close?

[QuietGamer90 (Tawsif (Rafee))]

@lunanto

So it looks like the purchase is getting increasingly harder to close?

Not necessarily - this is a reason why MS said they expect to get this deal closed in fiscal year 2023 (which ends on June 30, 2023).

[TheBrightestSun]

@lunanto

So it looks like the purchase is getting increasingly harder to close?

Nothing has changed

[Cyclonesweep]

@QuietGamer90

Not necessarily - this is a reason why MS said they expect to get this deal closed in fiscal year 2023 (which ends on June 30, 2023).

The EU said by March 1st I believe is their final verdict so if they say “you can’t do it” Then that could push it past that. Or if they require provisions or something like “have to sell off this part of the company etc”

I could see fall/winter being when Xbox starts talking about any plans or Gamepass drops for the ABK title as it will take a few months to get everything rolling.

[QuietGamer90 (Tawsif (Rafee))]

@Cyclonesweep

The EU said by March 1st I believe is their final verdict so if they say “you can’t do it” Then that could push it past that. Or if they require provisions or something like “have to sell off this part of the company etc”

I could see fall/winter being when Xbox starts talking about any plans or Gamepass drops for the ABK title as it will take a few months to get everything rolling.

That was the CMA.

[Daniel]

DON'T WATCH THIS! | Xbox, Activision, and EU Phase 2 Escalation (VL737)

[profjjj]

@Daniel

Short recap? I don’t have time to watch.

[Daniel]

@profjjj

Short recap? I don’t have time to watch.

All the Phase 2 escalations are all expect and nothing to worry about pretty much, EU have highlighted concerns to Microsoft which is what they need to start phase 2 deeper looks. Microsoft didn’t give any remedies because they would be doing it prematurely and they will want hard reasonings why they came to the conclusion.

My thoughts/understanding , going phase 2 means the EU has to give parties reasons and conclusions on why they think it won’t be good and have to back it up with the extra data they collect in phase 2. They will then give MS time to come up with remedies and so on to make them happy.

My opinion, pretty much this was always going to happen regardless and not some big unexpected deal that could cause trouble.

[profjjj]

@Daniel

… All the Phase 2 escalations are all expect and nothing to worry about pretty much, EU have highlighted concerns to Microsoft which is what they need to start phase 2 deeper looks. Microsoft didn’t give any remedies because they would be doing it prematurely and they will want hard reasonings why they came to the conclusion. My thoughts/understanding , going phase 2 means the EU has to give parties reasons and conclusions on why they think it won’t be good and have to back it up with the extra data they collect in phase 2. They will then give MS time to come up with remedies and so on to make them happy. My opinion, pretty much this was always going to happen regardless and not some big unexpected deal that could cause trouble.

Thanks. I agree with your assessment.