Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard Discussion Thread |OT3| - Sony bends the knee!

[QuietGamer90 (Tawsif (Rafee))]

@lunanto

Could it be that CMA’s new attitude is a bluff and a trick to further delay the resolution and try to cause harm?

I am starting to see some of your points, MS should be wary in any case.

After being lambasted by the CAT for attempting to delay the hearing previously, I do not think CMA would be stupid enough to try any new tricks again.

[Haven (Victor)]

@lunanto

Could it be that CMA’s new attitude is a bluff and a trick to further delay the resolution and try to cause harm?

I am starting to see some of your points, MS should be wary in any case.

They will declare before CAT on Monday whatever they are intending to pause for, makes no sense to pause if they haven’t come up with something. I still say Microsoft closes by Monday or Tuesday. If the CMA is serious then they will show some good faith in removing that interim order if not I say close over them and litigate later.

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

Am I right in assuming this meeting with the CAT is just a formality of the process and any major updates are going to be independent of that? That was the vibe I got anyway.

[Staffy]

@KlausHergershimer

There’s definitely a new one coming out this year. They were reportedly going to just do a large DLC instead of a full game, but opted to go back to a full, Sledgehammer developed game. Some NBA players apparently were invited to see it last week.

Interesting. Then a reveal can’t be too far away then. Iirc all previous ones by now had been revealed? It’s a bit late this time around.

[Haven (Victor)]

@QuietGamer90

After being lambasted by the CAT to delay the hearing previously, I do not think CMA would be stupid enough to try any new tricks again.

Maybe but doesn’t courtesy expect that stockholders or investors be alerted of an extension. Also, what is the point of pausing if the appeal period would have been done within the same period. I would expect some good faith evidence from the CMA on Monday if they were serious either by accepting the new remedy or removing the interim order.

[peter42O]

@TheLegendaryGamer

If they do it all at once than it will take a while longer.

The options available are great though. You can buy the game day one if you want, or buy later when on sale, or wait for it to be on Gamepass. You can sub to Gamepass all year, or sub to gamepass for a month or even just 14 days and play/beat the game. The choices are great.

It’s why anyone against this deal saying it will hurt consumer are talking bullshit lol. This is great for consumer. We pay less with more choices.

I completely agree. I understand those who want to own/collect games but im long past that point in my gaming life. The only games I buy digitally are those that will have expansions/post launch content because it’s just easier and more convenient. I do buy games physically but these are the games that I trade in once completed (ala FF XVI, lol).

I’m not someone who’ll stay subscribed to Game Pass due to the fact that I only use it when there’s a day one game that I want to play but knowing the option for all of Microsoft’s first party games is available this way is great for gamers and consumers in general.

Just like in the games themselves, the more options the better it is for everyone.

@pg2g

You not playing a game Day One is so weird

I can’t play every game day one. lol

The first six months of 2023, I had 11 games. I have played and completed 8 of them thus far and once I wrap up FF XVI tomorrow, it will be 9 out of 11. The two games I have left are Diablo IV which I will continue to wait on and Like a Dragon Ishin which I just bought a few days ago and received yesterday from GameStop. I don’t know when I will play it though as after FF XVI, next week is Remnant 2 which IS day one!!! Hell, I have four days off from work just so I can play it early since im buying the digital ultimate edition. Loved the first Remnant and the sequel looks like massive improvements everywhere.

I try to go game by game based on release date but doesn’t always work as too many games get released in the same month (October for example) or I look back like I did with Ishin and figure, let me give it a shot at some point.

My next two guaranteed day one playthroughs are Remnant 2 and Atlas Fallen.

[Haven (Victor)]

@Cairnst

Am I right in assuming this meeting with the CAT is just a formality of the process and any major updates are going to be independent of that? That was the vibe I got anyway.

Hopefully it’s broadcast like the rest.

[AllianceOfficer]

Personally, if I was Bobby Kottick, there isnt anything short of additional financial gain that could convince me to extend the deal past July 18th. With 400 million personally on the line, I am not extending while there is complete certainty in closing now. Microsoft would need to double that money coming to me to get me to even extend a few weeks.

[howlingmosquito (mosquito)]

Phil Re: PS5 activision games

[QuietGamer90 (Tawsif (Rafee))]

@Haven

Maybe but doesn’t courtesy expect that stockholders or investors be alerted of an extension. Also, what is the point of pausing if the appeal period would have been done within the same period. I would expect some good faith evidence from the CMA on Monday if they were serious either by accepting the new remedy or removing the interim order.

And who is to say they are not aware of a possible extension already? Let’s wait till Monday to find out.

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

@AllianceOfficer

Personally, if I was Bobby Kottick, there isnt anything short of additional financial gain that could convince me to extend the deal past July 18th. With 400 million personally on the line, I am not extending while there is complete certainty in closing now. Microsoft would need to double that money coming to me to get me to even extend a few weeks.

Is 400 million what he personally stands to gain here? I think the problem there is that that kind of money only represents a couple years of wages for him, he’ll make his mountain of gold regardless. As much as Activision probably still wants to sell since it’s share price is being propped up by this acquisition, the changes in the economy could see them demand a sizable bump in the sale price.

That said - would an extension count as a full renegotiation of the deal? If we’re only talking the 6 weeks estimated by the CMA (which it sounds like they cannot extend further) then presumably it would work under different terms.

[AllianceOfficer]

@QuietGamer90

And who is to say they are not aware of a possible extension already? Let’s wait till Monday to find out.

Stockholders have not been alerted of an extension.

[QuietGamer90 (Tawsif (Rafee))]

@AllianceOfficer

Stockholders have not been alerted of an extension.

I meant that the talks of a possible extension may have taken place internally already. Let’s wait till Monday to find out.

[pg2g]

@Haven

Maybe but doesn’t courtesy expect that stockholders or investors be alerted of an extension. Also, what is the point of pausing if the appeal period would have been done within the same period. I would expect some good faith evidence from the CMA on Monday if they were serious either by accepting the new remedy or removing the interim order.

Why would stockholders be alerted of an extension before there is an extension?

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

@pg2g

Why would stockholders be alerted of an extension before there is an extension?

Ah because maybe they have to be pre-alerted to any alerting of a theoretical extension, prior to the actual alert should there be an extension.

[pg2g]

@Cairnst

Ah because maybe they have to be pre-alerted to any alerting of a theoretical extension, prior to the actual alert should there be an extension.

I am sure Microsoft and ABK have discussed extensions internally, but don’t see why anyone outside of that needs to know until they formally try and extend the deal.

They’ll find out when they have to vote on it

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

@pg2g

I am sure Microsoft and ABK have discussed extensions internally, but don’t see why anyone outside of that needs to know until they formally try and extend the deal.

They’ll find out when they have to vote on it

Oh I was kidding anyway, plus I heard elsewhere they wouldn’t necessarily need an additional vote for extension? It’s a bit unclear though.

[Visceron]

Monday/Tuesday is the new DAY.

Still confident the deal with close Monday/Tuesday.

I don’t trust the CMA BUT I know MS can close/have some plan in place if they believe they are up to delaying shenanigans.

[GamepadX]

Guitar Hero (bing ai)

[FacelessSamurai]

@howlingmosquito

Phil Re: PS5 activision games

Phil in an internal meeting after the closure of ABK acquisition: “COD 2024 is now an Xbox exclusive as well as every subsequent COD game”.