Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard Discussion Thread |OT3| - Sony bends the knee!

[EPC]

@CallMeCraig

Thats not what the delisting from NASDAQ-100 implies. The news dont tell us that ATVI will be delisted from NASDAQ stock exchange. These are two different things.

No, but delisting is one of them.

[MJ_INC]

Thought this was interesting. This is what the 9th circuit will look at for a stay:

In evaluating a motion for stay pending appeal we consider four factors: “(1) whether the stay applicant has made a strong showing that he is likely to succeed on the merits; (2) whether the applicant will be irreparably injured absent a stay; (3) whether issuance of the stay will substantially injure the other parties interested in the proceeding; and (4) where the public interest lies.” Nken v. Holder, 556 U.S. 418, 426 (2009) (quoting Hilton v. Braunskill, 481 U.S. 770, 776 (1987)).

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

These are the points on which FTC has filled it’s motion again

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1679576706913370113?t=V0PoOL-E9GwBUdhP4QN9pg&s=19

Let’s see if any of this matters to the court

[Searsy82]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

These are the points on which FTC has filled it’s motion again

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1679576706913370113?t=V0PoOL-E9GwBUdhP4QN9pg&s=19

Let’s see if any of this matters to the court

I’m no lawyer, but I have to wonder how that is material to the court. The FTC does not want the merger to go through, so claiming that you just want to stop it temporarily now so that you can continue to try to stop it permanently doesn’t seem terribly convincing.

[KakkaKarrotKake]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

These are the points on which FTC has filled it’s motion again

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1679576706913370113?t=V0PoOL-E9GwBUdhP4QN9pg&s=19

Let’s see if any of this matters to the court

MS gets to respond to this right?

[Daniel]

Watch the CMA approves the deal with the divestiture for only the FTC get their appeal granted

[AllianceOfficer]

The CMA issued an extension of six weeks to their final order. I believe that final order is what dictated Microsoft cannot close. I’m not an expert but I think that means that the CMA block is no longer in effect. If so, the deal likely closes and the CMA and Microsoft matters would be ongoing.

[Zappy5]

@AllianceOfficer

The CMA issued an extension of six weeks to their final order. I believe that final order is what dictated Microsoft cannot close. I’m not an expert but I think that means that the CMA block is no longer in effect. If so, the deal likely closes and the CMA and Microsoft matters would be ongoing.

No it’s the interim order which is still in effect or at least no announcement to the contrary has been made.

[bcatwilly]

I think people may be complicating the CMA timing too much. Based on their work on a resolution with the CMA they obviously won’t close on Monday with some statement against the CMA. I doubt that it would be some huge deal to close and say this was done for appropriate near term business considerations (merger agreement timeline being the big one), but we look forward to resolving any remaining concerns with the CMA as soon as possible so that we can continue our great business relationships with our UK partners.

[Swanlee]

@Cairnst

These Activison threads have been full of people who have been consistently proven wrong on all sides of the discussion, myself probably included. If you disagree with something someone says, be a part of the discussion and give your opposing side. Or just ignore 'em and move on. But these snide remarks that are too far after the fact and too unspecific to argue against just unnecessary and unpleasant, we’d never get anything else discussed if we did this for everything people have been wrong about in here.

We should all just be enjoying that things seem to be going well at the moment, not relishing that others may have been wrong or that others might feel differently.

The doom posting that some have been doing since day one is completely uneeded as every single thing right now is pointing to a close within a week. Its old and lame and does not reflect the current movement of this situation.

If you have to stick to a gimmick in these threads and never waver based on the actual ever changing reality its probably time to take a break from this subject.

It is pretty much trolling and doom posting now to keep trying to poke holes and present a negative outcome given recent developments and that deserves to be called out.

[Zappy5]

@bcatwilly

I think people may be complicating the CMA timing too much. Based on their work on a resolution with the CMA they obviously won’t close on Monday with some statement against the CMA. I doubt that it would be some huge deal to close and say this was done for appropriate near term business considerations (merger agreement timeline being the big one), but we look forward to resolving any remaining concerns with the CMA as soon as possible so that we can continue our great business relationships with our UK partners.

Yeah it’s entirely possible thy have a deal worked out with the CMA to close Monday that will not be discussed until we know the appeals verdict.

[KakkaKarrotKake]

If no decision is made by the judges today, I really hope MS closes first thing Saturday

It will be one long ass weekend if MS doesn’t close until Monday while the decision from the judges could come in at anytime before that to put it on hold

[Voodoopeople]

By what Tom Warren (I think it’s Tom) says, it appears the CMA and MS have ALREADY reached an agreement and they are just waiting to see what happens with the 9th circuit before making any public statements about it.

As someone above stated, just watch the 9th circuit agree to the PI now. Typical…

[Visceron]

No doom and gloom here. MS seems confident so I will be too.

[Voodoopeople]

@KakkaKarrotKake

If no decision is made by the judges today, I really hope MS closes first thing Saturday

It will be one long ass weekend if MS doesn’t close until Monday while the decision from the judges could come in at anytime before that to put it on hold

MS re waiting to hear the 9th circuit’s decision before taking any public steps, I think.

18hrs to go, before we know for sure.

If the 9th rejects the appeal or don’t do anything about it in time, then MS can close in the US.

At that point, I think we’ll hear more about what agreements/discussions they have had with CMA.

Then there will be the CAT hearing on Monday 17th, where they may even both tell CAT that they have reached an agreement and want to cancel any further action.

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

@Swanlee

The doom posting that some have been doing since day one is completely uneeded as every single thing right now is pointing to a close within a week. Its old and lame and does not reflect the current movement of this situation.

If you have to stick to a gimmick in these threads and never waver based on the actual ever changing reality its probably time to take a break from this subject.

It is pretty much trolling and doom posting now to keep trying to poke holes and present a negative outcome given recent developments and that deserves to be called out.

I remember there being a lot of wild optimism about how this whole process from day one as well. People convinced that this whole process would be smooth, no concessions, done by Fall, no one would oppose it, CMA would approve - so on and so forth. This whole process has been a rollercoaster full of ups and downs, with plenty of reasons to be pessimistic and optimistic at different times. Things are looking optimistic now, but it’s not over yet.

We’re all just judging it as best we can as outside observers who aren’t experts in this particular field - just because someone is more cautious and neutral in their viewpoint doesn’t make them trolling. Just as no one was trolling with their overly optimistic takes either.

Like I said, maybe we should just enjoy that things are going well rather than trying to make a full accounting of anyone we percieve as having been wrong.

[howlingmosquito (mosquito)]

@Cairnst

I remember there being a lot of wild optimism about how this whole process from day one as well. People convinced that this whole process would be smooth, no concessions, done by Fall, no one would oppose it, CMA would approve - so on and so forth. This whole process has been a rollercoaster full of ups and downs, with plenty of reasons to be pessimistic and optimistic at different times. Things are looking optimistic now, but it’s not over yet.

I think we’ve arrived at the same result with a different path.

Microsoft vs Sony. Became irrelevant. They only needed Sonys arrogance and a fleeting Nintendo contract.

The FTC had no case. It should have been unchallenged. They did challenge. They loss because they have no case.

The EU and China acted as expected.

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

@howlingmosquito

I think we’ve arrived at the same result with a different path.

Microsoft vs Sony. Became irrelevant. They only needed Sonys arrogance and a fleeting Nintendo contract.

The FTC had no case. It should have been unchallenged. They did challenge. They loss because they have no case.

The EU and China acted as expected.

We’re perhaps getting close to a positive outcome but it’s been a far bumpier road than expected, and Microsoft has had to offer up more than they likely initially planned. I don’t imagine when they first offered Sony a 3 year contract that they thought they’d be fighting an ugly (and likely expensive) court battle, making 10 year deals with multiple parties as well as various other promises in court, concessions in the EU and even now reportedly looking at divestiture as a solution to move forward.

[Swanlee]

@Cairnst

We’re perhaps getting close to a positive outcome but it’s been a far bumpier road than expected, and Microsoft has had to offer up more than they likely initially planned. I don’t imagine when they first offered Sony a 3 year contract that they thought they’d be fighting an ugly (and likely expensive) court battle, making 10 year deals with multiple parties as well as various other promises in court, concessions in the EU and even now reportedly looking at divestiture as a solution to move forward.

I can probably write a forum bot that posts negative crap after every new piece of info comes out in this thread, might save some people some time.

Yes this has been a rollercoaster but that also implies things have changed both good and bad, when people keep sticking to the exact same negative script no matter what new info comes out then that is trolling and or doom posting.

Be a human and process the information as it comes in and adjust accordingly, some people just need to knock it off with the predictable negative replies to EVERY piece of news that comes out on this.

[drakel (akis)]

@Swanlee

I can probably write a forum bot that posts negative crap after every new piece of info comes out in this thread, might save some people some time.

Yes this has been a rollercoaster but that also implies things have changed both good and bad, when people keep sticking to the exact same negative script no matter what new info comes out then that is trolling and or doom posting.

Be a human and process the information as it comes in and adjust accordingly, some people just need to knock it off with the predictable negative replies to EVERY piece of news that comes out on this.

Even though I do agree with you that at this point pessimism and doom posting is plain dumb, since everything points to a positive outcome, having the whole forum consider this a done deal since day one turns us into an echo chamber, I hate echo chambers they are the enemy of any type of progress. When nothing is certain, different opinions should be welcome not frowned upon.