Geoff Keighley gives his thoughts on PS5 + XsX

[PCPrincipal]

@DeoGame

I won’t either (so glad Staten is back) but I think this is the last time MS should bet on them to carry them. Thankfully, with all the new studios, they probably won’t have to again.

Don’t think so that will be the case moving forward. This is old baggage that is being carried forward. And considering Halo is a 10 year project it won’t have to. Other franchises will be replacing it, which I think and believe they will be.

[Yuzupon]

Microsoft could put out the first ever 100/100 game on Metacritic and Geoff would still not be impressed. This has been one of the best years ever for Xbox Game Studios. 2 of the highest rated games come from them, and there’s been a nice stream of very well received games as well. If Halo Infinite would have launched on a great state, this would have been the best year ever for Xbox.

Comparing Gamepass to basic cable is ridiculous. Gamepass is more akin to Netflix, as for every okaish film (game example: Battletoad) they also have some good films (example: Tell Me Why) and some prestige content (example: Flight Sim, Ori)

Keighley is biased and always will be. The less we care about what platform he prefers, the better. Once Xbox hits a consistent streak of prestige games, comments like the ones he says are gonna age like milk.

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@Joe_Sinister1

Are we really at the point where we are comparing Gamepass to their TV, push in 2013? Really?

And the funny thing about the whole “TV, TV, TV,” thing is they still showed off Quantum Break and Ryse. I am honestly surprised if MS has no big third party exclusive to show of the console in the pipeline, at least in the launch Window. Doesn’t seem like something they’d do at all but stranger things have happened.

Yeah I don’t know what planet I’m on when their 2013 somehow is analogous to Game Pass and the overall effect COVID had on their Series X plans. Taking COVID out of the equation, Game Pass is inarguably the best thing to happen to consumers, indies, and larger devs in over a decade; that’s not me being a fanboy or blind, it’s simple fact in an industry that constantly parades then ignores indies, and one that is ever-increasingly money-hungry, you have a subscription model that is extremely cost-friendly and helps developers. Simple facts and trying to say it’s somehow devaluing games or not a massive advantage in the content wars is disingenuous to a fault.

Edit: And to think that you have one of the big three giving out all of their titles on day one in GamePass like Xbox is, I’m sorry but I can’t help but think naysayers have an agenda.

[BadNews]

@KageMaru

That’s Bloober showing off the SSD and arguably one of the better showcases for the Series X in general. However what has Xbox shown? I know some would say Forza or Halo but nope. Neither is confirmed to be running on actual hardware and one wasn’t the most impressive while the other was a short, pointless clip.

The Opening Night Live show is another perfect example to how Microsoft is coming up very short. Their contribution to the show was a damn Game Pass commercial while Sony is providing an extended look at Ratchet and Clank as the show closer. Their approaches are worlds apart and Microsoft really needs to step up.

That’s a fair point that they need first party studio to show what Series X is capable of. We most likely won’t see that for awhile since it seemed they banked on Halo being ready for launch, and then Forza for 2021.

[Staffy]

@PCPrincipal

…inion Xbox should Drop this Keighley guy. All of his shows has been a disaster in the way he has portrayed Xbox. Why give him fodder if its just going to be advertisements of the games and Game Pass. Most of the times this guys has downplayed whatever Xbox has provided. Even the first look of Series X and Hellblade 2 at Game Awards he intentionally downplayed and lowered the audience volume whereas you can see in reality people were cheering that announcement. I still don’t understand why MS are acting goody two shoes to such people. Its almost like Keighley plays good with MS so that he can use the Microsoft theater for Game Awards. Sorry this comes of as a bit of a rant, but seriously they should find some other people to market their products who is actually interested in their ecosystem.

Wait, the fuck?

He really did that? Because that’s just petty, nah, not even that, that’s just sad, I’m sorry. Why would he do that? It’s all gaming in the end, everyone that loves this industry should celebrate that.

[Joe_Sinister1 (Joe_Sinister)]

@Staffy

Wait, the fuck?

He really did that? Because that’s just petty, nah, not even that, that’s just sad, I’m sorry. Why would he do that? It’s all gaming in the end, everyone that loves this industry should celebrate that.

I have no idea if it was on purpose or not but if you compare the very muted reaction to the series X/Hellblade reveal in the official stream to the cellphone captures of it ( i’ve seen about two of them) it’s like night and day. I was taken aback myself when i first saw it and thought "wow, i feel like the crowd should be a bit more hyped at a nextgen console and game reveal. Then i saw the amateur footage where the crowd erupts especially when Hellblade 2 is shown. Again not saying D-Pope did it purposely but it was a bit odd .

[LucasTaves]

@DangoBongo

He’s totally right. Right now, they’re going for a quantity vs quality approach. I don’t see that changing either.

I really don’t see it. Even though some of their games still get some points knocked off they are hitting some nice scores overall. Compared to last couple years, save for gears 5 I’d say both quality and quantity has drastically improved.

[giovane (giovanealex)]

@Yuzupon

…r 100/100 game on Metacritic and Geoff would still not be impressed. This has been one of the best years ever for Xbox Game Studios. 2 of the highest rated games come from them, and there’s been a nice stream of very well received games as well. If Halo Infinite would have launched on a great state, this would have been the best year ever for Xbox. Comparing Gamepass to basic cable is ridiculous. Gamepass is more akin to Netflix, as for every okaish film (game example: Battletoad) they also have some good films (example: Tell Me Why) and some prestige content (example: Flight Sim, Ori) Keighley is biased and always will be. The less we care about what platform he prefers, the better. Once Xbox hits a consistent streak of prestige games, comments like the ones he says are gonna age like milk.

Exactly.

[UnanimousScum23 (Ruben)]

@Yuzupon

…r 100/100 game on Metacritic and Geoff would still not be impressed. This has been one of the best years ever for Xbox Game Studios. 2 of the highest rated games come from them, and there’s been a nice stream of very well received games as well. If Halo Infinite would have launched on a great state, this would have been the best year ever for Xbox. Comparing Gamepass to basic cable is ridiculous. Gamepass is more akin to Netflix, as for every okaish film (game example: Battletoad) they also have some good films (example: Tell Me Why) and some prestige content (example: Flight Sim, Ori) Keighley is biased and always will be. The less we care about what platform he prefers, the better. Once Xbox hits a consistent streak of prestige games, comments like the ones he says are gonna age like milk.

I like Geoff. Don’t always agree with him, but over all I like the dude. I will say that it’s noticeable he doesn’t really feel xbox, which is fine, but given his position in the gaming industry I wish he’d be a little more neutral. I think xbox should go with Ryan McCaffrey for their next showcase. I love Ryan’s passion for xbox and the industry. And even though he’s a “xbox guy”, I feel he’s very respectful towards sony and nintendo and is not dismissive towards other platforms as Geoff can sometimes be.

[LifeForms]

@Resist

“Dropping Keighley” won’t change the fact that MS doesn’t have a game to show off their new consoles capabilities.

Lots of there games do.

One could argue that flight sim is more “next gen” then anything else shown.

[Mort]

Honestly, I really hope they stop using Keighley for anything. I’m at the point where if he’s in it, I ain’t watching. So tired of the phoning in of lines mixed with badly hidden disinterest for everything Xbox with that man.

[Yuzupon]

@UnanimousScum23

I like Geoff. Don’t always agree with him, but over all I like the dude. I will say that it’s noticeable he doesn’t really feel xbox, which is fine, but given his position in the gaming industry I wish he’d be a little more neutral. I think xbox should go with Ryan McCaffrey for their next showcase. I love Ryan’s passion for xbox and the industry. And even though he’s a “xbox guy”, I feel he’s very respectful towards sony and nintendo and is not dismissive towards other platforms as Geoff can sometimes be.

I’m ok with whatever his preferences are. What irks me as wrong is that for better or worst, he has some influence on this industry and is seem as an important figure. The fair thing would be to take a neutral position, yet, he make his bias way too on the nose. I’ve given the example before, but he never reacts on his social networks when Ninty or MS put out a great game. Sony tho? He goes banana even when one of their games is not that highly acclaimed, with comments glowing about basically nothing. Remember how he hyped the PS5 event like the second coming of Christ? He wasn’t even involved on the damn thing.

[Mort]

@Joe_Sinister1

I have no idea if it was on purpose or not but if you compare the very muted reaction to the series X/Hellblade reveal in the official stream to the cellphone captures of it ( i’ve seen about two of them) it’s like night and day. I was taken aback myself when i first saw it and thought "wow, i feel like the crowd should be a bit more hyped at a nextgen console and game reveal. Then i saw the amateur footage where the crowd erupts especially when Hellblade 2 is shown. Again not saying D-Pope did it purposely but it was a bit odd .

Yes what they showed in the official stream and what is seen and heard in the crowd footage is night and day.

[UnanimousScum23 (Ruben)]

@Yuzupon

I’m ok with whatever his preferences are. What irks me as wrong is that for better or worst, he has some influence on this industry and is seem as an important figure. The fair thing would be to take a neutral position, yet, he make his bias way too on the nose. I’ve given the example before, but he never reacts on his social networks when Ninty or MS put out a great game. Sony tho? He goes banana even when one of their games is not that highly acclaimed, with comments glowing about basically nothing. Remember how he hyped the PS5 event like the second coming of Christ? He wasn’t even involved on the damn thing.

Agreed 100%

[LifeForms]

@Joe_Sinister1

I have no idea if it was on purpose or not but if you compare the very muted reaction to the series X/Hellblade reveal in the official stream to the cellphone captures of it ( i’ve seen about two of them) it’s like night and day. I was taken aback myself when i first saw it and thought "wow, i feel like the crowd should be a bit more hyped at a nextgen console and game reveal. Then i saw the amateur footage where the crowd erupts especially when Hellblade 2 is shown. Again not saying D-Pope did it purposely but it was a bit odd .

To be fair GODFALL received very similar cheers in the official steam.

[Resist]

@LifeForms

Lots of there games do.

One could argue that flight sim is more “next gen” then anything else shown.

Unfortunately, we haven’t seen flight sim running on a series x

[pg2g]

Just watched the video and don’t think he said anything unreasonable. Microsoft is going to need to come with the software if they want to change the perception. Even among folks here on this very forum.

[LifeForms]

@Resist

Unfortunately, we haven’t seen flight sim running on a series x

Expect it to look an run like a PC footage with a RTX2080 considering the xsx’s GPU is very close to that GPU.

[KageMaru]

@DeoGame

I have no fucking clue why they’ve released 4 great games over the past week but have nothing for launch except maybe Gears Tactics. I think betting the farm on Halo was a massive mistake and frankly 343 should never get that level of trust again. Hell, maybe they should have delayed Gears 5 a year and have it be THE reason to own a next gen system. I really do not get the endgame here.

Still, I think Keighley really shafted them in how they presented the games, and if they knew this, they may have planned accordingly. I genuinely hope the September event is good. I don’t need much. I enjoyed the hell out of the July event. I just need a reason to justify dropping a shitton of money at Launch, which so far neither has provided.

I don’t think they should have delayed anything for the console launch, especially if it’s cross gen. Phil did say he wouldn’t delay anything to balloon up the launch lineup and I respect them for holding to that. I’m just surprised they didn’t plan to have something more than Halo at launch.

I also don’t agree that Keighley had anything to do with what was presented. If Xbox said they have an extended demo of Hellblade 2, Keighley would have been all over that. He can only work with all the companies on what they can provide and Sony came through much better here.

@PCPrincipal

In my humble opinion Xbox should Drop this Keighley guy. All of his shows has been a disaster in the way he has portrayed Xbox. Why give him fodder if its just going to be advertisements of the games and Game Pass. Most of the times this guys has downplayed whatever Xbox has provided. Even the first look of Series X and Hellblade 2 at Game Awards he intentionally downplayed and lowered the audience volume whereas you can see in reality people were cheering that announcement.

I still don’t understand why MS are acting goody two shoes to such people. Its almost like Keighley plays good with MS so that he can use the Microsoft theater for Game Awards. Sorry this comes of as a bit of a rant, but seriously they should find some other people to market their products who is actually interested in their ecosystem.

I don’t see what you were seeing. Keighley might prefer Playstation or he may not. He could prefer the types of games they make and nothing more. Whatever his preference is, he still worked with Phil and Xbox on presenting the reveal how they wanted, including a fake/altered rehearsal. Keighley was pretty pumped for the reveal as he talked up to it.

Keighley is great for the games industry, it’s clear he has a lot of passion for it. Xbox just needs to do a better job at participating in it.

[Resist]

@KageMaru

s cross gen. Phil did say he wouldn’t delay anything to balloon up the launch lineup and I respect them for holding to that. I’m just surprised they didn’t plan to have something more than Halo at launch.

I also don’t agree that Keighley had anything to do with what was presented. If Xbox said they have an extended demo of Hellblade 2, Keighley would have been all over that. He can only work with all the companies on what they can provide and Sony came through much better here.

I think people need to accept that Microsoft bet everything on Halo and really has nothing to show, currently.