Games Analysis |OT| Time To Argue About Pixels And Frames!

I honestly even find the Zelda BoTW and Tears enhancements rather disappointing. I still see grainy, ugly effects in the grass and it isn’t nearly as clean as I hoped.

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Looks like the only differences between ports is PS5Pro having a higher lowest res(1440p) and higher highest res(2160p/4k). Beyond on that the shadow issues(filtering) on Xbox and the low quality for RTGI are in place on PS5 and Pro.

XSX tends to run at a higher res most of the time when compared to PS5, so it gives a better-looking image with PS5pro taking the lead. The result seems to be because of hardware VRS on XSX compared to PS5, with Pro likely not using it and getting a sharper looking image (they zoomed in on Indy’s suit/arm to get the image difference to be noticeable).

Performance wise it looks like the only issue is auto save and cutscenes, with only the scene when the car drops down into the underground of the Vatican causing any issues for PS5, with XSX and PS5pro pretty much getting similar drops to as low as 57fps in that scene.

Sorry forgot to mention, base settings for XSX seem to have the brightness up by 5, so everything looks a little brighter.

Talk about the hands on impression at the London Switch 2 event.

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Is it another ad? :wink:

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Panic Button did a great port all around, only big differences between Xbox Series X and PS5 is that the Xbox version less drops in resolution.

Performance is pretty much the usual consistent 60 and 30 fps.

They also do a sort of knitpicky comparison about how in 30fps if you just drive forward the car can be further on 30 than on 60fps. This quirk also exist on Xbox.

PS5pro is getting the same treatment as other games, where on 60fps it gets more details that are comparible to 30fps on PS5.

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The PS5 audience who’s never played a Forza Horizon game before are in for a real treat!

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Im sorry, I was told during the FTC trial that Microsoft would make PlayStation versions bad on purpose. Why isn’t Microsoft making good on their evil machinations!?

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I’m sorry but I’m not seeing a difference worthy of paying 800 euros for. Diminishing returns I think it’s what it’s called? I see both modes and I just don’t see it. And I sit very close to my 65 inch Sony A95K nowadays.

The bump in quality between PS5 base and PS5 Pro seems miniscule compared to Xbox One → Xbox One X and even Xbox One X → Xbox Series X. (Not even taking into account PSSR’s issues and some games looking worse on the Pro than they do on the base console.)

It honestly makes me wonder what we’re going to see with PS6 and Xbox next console and if the quality jump is going to be so small that we all just shrug, especially since the new consoles will probably cost $800 or something. I feel like I could be happy with Series X for a long time if the disparity between the huge price and the barely discernable quality boost keeps escalating. Cross gen forever. :man_shrugging:

You’re getting into the realm of better graphics on PC. If the framerate doesn’t change it’s tougher to notice nowadays. I feel a huge difference going from 60 to 120 but medium to ultra? almost nothing.

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Framerate and SSD were the most significant Series X upgrades for me in some ways. Like, one of the biggest “next gen wow factor” experiences for me was The Outer Worlds and all it added was 60 FPS and cut out long load times. But that made it feel like a different game.

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I distinctly remember ResetEra during the PS5 reveal. Everyone talking as if there were going to be revolutionary changes to gaming because of SSDs (suddenly the most important thing once it was clear the PS5 had very clever SSD tech).

I’m still waiting. This applies to all tech, of course, not just PS. It’s tiresome and redundant: it’s minimal gains for ever more cost, and gameplay is gameplay is gameplay.

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It’s kind of funny, the DF guys are nice to the Ghost of Yotei trailer but they seem vaguely disappointed that it doesn’t have ray traced lighting or any big leap type of graphical features, it’s just an iteration on their previous technology. And I’m like, good? :rofl: It looks amazing to me, please bring on more highly polished, super sharp looking games instead of smeary low res games with ray tracing I don’t notice anyway.

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I think the big thing with RTGI is that the game needs to be build for it from the start, like India Jones was or how Metro Exodus was updated. India Jones also used VRS which allowed it to save on resource to have an overall cleaner look on XSX than PS5 with the one example DF showed only being visible when they zoomed in on Indy’s suit.

The most important part of this video to me is when Oliver says he turned off Film Grain and Chromatic Aberation for this video. As they tend to soften the image quality of the game.

TL;DR - It looked sharper on PS4. :downcast_face_with_sweat:

Oliver has the kid gloves on and tries to be nice, but I think it would be fair to call this a botched remaster. If I was going to play this game I would choose the PS4 version, based on this video.

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So, I’m at the part where he’s talking about nighttime brightness and I have to wonder, did contrast and brightness setting not do anything to darken the scene? Because the way I set it in game really makes things dark, like in Persona 3 Reload in the rainbow road level.

It’s really amazing how low effort those remasters/remakes have been on the tech side from the start of the generation, in most cases they didn’t even bother to add any form of ray tracing…which is the tech buzzword for this generation and the expected thing to do marketing wise I guess if you want to sell those remasters. Sony simply doesn’t give a F. lol

And of course they have the kid gloves on…he even recommends the remaster at the end of the video. :upside_down_face:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1kgxjgv/geekerwan_got_a_switch_2_motherboard_early_and/

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It’s why I cringe when people still call it analysis; it’s hardly objective or technically-sound enough to be called so at this point. I like to call them tech endorsements (*for certain companies), or… advertisements, if you will :wink:

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