The downside is that hes an egotistical billionaire that has a really bad history of mistreating his employees and going after people for the slightest percieved slight. Still not over how he called that cave diver who was rescuing the kids trapped in thailand a pedo on twitter and then succesfully defended himself in court by saying it was just a joke. Im not saying he’s all bad, he is capable of some good (Like sending his Starlink satellite dishes to ukraine), but hes not exactly the kinda good guy who i would trust with wanting to bring more “Freedom of speech” to a social media platform.
Hes probably not gonna allow anyone to be silenced or cancelled on the network so people will be able to say what they want and not have thier account deleted. Aside from that probably just small changes
This guy? The guy who has fired or threatened to sue people for being critical of his companies? Doesn’t sound like he’s quite as much a “free speech absolutist” as he claims I’m not so comfortable with him being in charge of “free speech”. What exactly would that even mean in this context anyway, twitter has basic rules like “don’t be racist” and “don’t harass others”. People break those rules, get banned and cry about “free speech”. So as far as I can gather his ideal social media platform is okay on racism but not okay on anything critical of Elon Musk or his cars.
Yeah, Musk is not capable of any good at all, the US government paid him to send the Starlink to Ukraine. He just decided he didn’t need to tell anyone about it and make it look like he did it to help out.
If he wants to let people say things that offend people thats fine. Even if it offends people thats the point of free speech. people dont have to stay on twitter. they can always just stay on facebook or anywhere else. The problem is the people who decide what is offensive on twitter now get to decide what they think is offensive. things. That arn’t considered at all get marked as being offensive when they shoudn’t be. Im all for a platform where people can say what they want good or bad. offensive or not. Thats what musk wants.
At the same time I understand why people are nervous about it I just welcome a fully free speech platform. We just need to see how its gonna turn out. im not gonna say anymore because I dont want any mods mad at me.
free speech is the government not putting you in jail for saying things. Private companies are not beholden to it and Twitter is anything has allowed far too much hate speech for far too long.
" The right to freedom of speech allows individuals to express themselves without government interference or regulation ."
A “free speech platform” is any government regulated one. Not a business like Twitter. Funnily enough the only real example of Free Speech being violated has been what Florida’s government is trying to do to Disney right now.
This can only go downhill
I totally get that like here on Xbox era we can say and cant say certain things right? those are the rules. Im saying Im ok with a place where anything goes offensive or not. A tatooine of social media lol
That will never exist and it would be the worst, most vitriolic thing of all time. Hit up Kiwi Farms if you’re desperate to shit on people without reprisal.
What do you think Twitter deletes/censors that you think deserves to be kept for this idea of free speech you think of? Twitter is already offensive, there’s no worse place than it for offensive takes. Offensive and toxic opinions don’t get your account deleted unless you’re being racist, sexist, or misleading about facts that affect people’s lives, etc… all things that don’t really deserve free speech
I’m down for tatooine as long as everyone’s home address is attached to each post lol
I believe in freedom of catching these hands
As someone on this side of the fence I always laugh, and scoff, at people who throw around the “freedom of speech” bullshit without realizing that it literally only pertains to what the government can enforce. Furthermore, free speech still has limits even in that context, and from a private company standpoint should absolutely enforce greater limitations lest you end up in the tolerance paradox. There’s no good-faith argument to unfettered free speech, unless you’re purely ignorant of the pitfalls that have been studied and documented ad nauseam.
Also, Elon Musk is nothing but an apartheid-benefiting piece of shit who will absolutely shut down any thought that’s critical of him or his white supremacist ilk, so spare me the “champion of free speech” bullshit.
Edit: Back for more! For anyone who thinks Elon is “one of the good billionaires” check out this podcast (one of many).
Also, Twitter tried the whole “free speech” and complete unmoderated thing… that ended up with Gamergate being perpetuated by right-wing syndicates causing damages we’re still feeling, and for women in the gaming industry has been categorically one of the most devastating events in their tenure.
“free speech” is about government reprisal on its citizens. It has nothing to do with companies running social media. Unmoderated chat is the worst thing of all time. The few times Knottian, Proven, or myself haven’t been around for a few days has been rough and the community here is damned good on the whole.
*Except when they are negative towards his own company.
We don’t owe racists or sexists or homophobes or transphobes a platform to continue to spread their abuse, this isn’t some “slippery slope of free speech”, this is just basic decency being upheld. And the sort of people who get banned and talk about “free speech” or “being cancelled” are purposefully arguing in bad faith because they know they can manipulate the narrative away from whatever awful thing they said or did and into a discussion about “how awful cancel culture is”. Never mind that most of these people are hypocrites who happily want to silence those speaking against them.
And this is further nonsense, Tatooine is not a planet where people do bad things and everyone goes “welp, that’s there free speech”. They are not spared consequences because it’s a lawless planet.