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[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Hindle

MS and PG have had to find a new studio, hire a new team, sit down and plan out this Fable, then enter pre production, then full production. This takes way longer then you think. Game dev these days is such a long enduring process.

So fable will take 7 years total? Doubt.

Covid is a reality but its not 2-3 years delay kind of thing.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@GoroMajima

Let’s be real. Fable development should have started long ago.

Because it did.

How long are people expecting Fable to be? Average completion time in the series is in the 22 hour range. Horizon Zero Dawn (rumored to be the reason Fable got rebooted) is 25-30 while Witcher 3 is 50ish hours.

[Mort]

@javycane

while Witcher 3 is 50ish hours.

People really play games wrong…

[Hindle]

@javycane

So fable will take 7 years total? Doubt.

Covid is a reality but its not 2-3 years delay kind of thing.

Production started in 2019, so from there add about 5 years in dev.

[GoroMajima]

@javycane

Because it did.

How long are people expecting Fable to be? Average completion time in the series is in the 22 hour range. Horizon Zero Dawn (rumored to be the reason Fable got rebooted) is 25-30 while Witcher 3 is 50ish hours.

I’m talking about Ms wasting time and resources on canceled games like scalebound(ok third party studio but definitely a ton of money) crackdown 3 and having lionhead dissolve or disband.

My point is Fable 4 should have started development a long time ago and come out by now or closer to coming out.

[Hindle]

@GoroMajima

I’m talking about Ms wasting time and resources on canceled games like scalebound(ok third party studio but definitely a ton of money) crackdown 3 and having lionhead dissolve or disband.

My point is Fable 4 should have started development a long time ago and come out by now or closer to coming out.

I mean it’s a lot of work logistically to create a new studio and hire a new team. None of this can be done overnight

[CallMeCraig]

@Hindle

You’re in for a surprise as you were with Starfield. Everything is later then you think

Mhmm, but Forza Horizon 5 is not coming out later than we thought.

[Hindle]

@CallMeCraig

Mhmm, but Forza Horizon 5 is not coming out later than we thought.

It’s amazing how efficient PG are with Horizon 5, it’s still taken 3 years though, and that’s with thier established tools.

[Mort]

@CallMeCraig

Mhmm, but Forza Horizon 5 is not coming out later than we thought.

Well , they did go from 2 to 3 years between games.

[CallMeCraig]

@Hindle

It’s amazing how efficient PG are with Horizon 5, it’s still taken 3 years though, and that’s with thier established tools.

@Mort

Well , they did go from 2 to 3 years between games.

thats because of Fable of course

[Mort]

@CallMeCraig

thats because of Fable of course

So, maybe? It’s still later than usual. Like so many games.

[ParkerPetrov]

@Hindle

Hellblade was revealed before Avowed. I’d say it’s the other way round. Hellblade first quarter, Avowed in the third or fourth

Don’t forget hellblade lost approximately a year where they couldn’t mocap because of covid and hellblade is mocap heavy.

[Proven]

@Mort

Well , they did go from 2 to 3 years between games.

Covid happened

[Mort]

@Proven

Covid happened

Yup.

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

For me, Sea of Thrives is a Nintendo type game done right on Xbox

It’s turning into a massive franchise, is cartoon like (gorgeous) and I don’t like it’s gameplay

[tbassett (Tim)]

@andrew_schmidt

Watching RDX they were talking about what pete Hines and Aaron Greenberg said about bethseda exclusivity and they are right there is a double standard in the media why is it ok for sony to moneyhat 3rd party IP like spiderman and final fantasy but it’s not ok when Xbox does it?

For example the whole tomb raider situation and buying bethseda sorry games media that’s not how this works the same mother fuckers didn’t ask sony what about Xbox when Spider-man became playstation exclusive keep that same energy!

I have nothing but respect for Phil Spencer but one mistake he has made was the handling of Tomb Raider exclusivity.

Sony biased media/fans hounded Microsoft until they cracked and told them the length of the deal and when it was going to be available on PS. And they never did another deal like that.

So you rewarded the cry babies and have them what they wanted. That’s why there’s this non stop outrage about Starfield. They figure crying loud enough worked last time and Xbox buckled. Maybe they’ll do it again.

[bof]

I’m also one of those who think that Fable will not be released before 2024. Covid is one thing, building a team from scratch is another… and that takes time, lots of time. They’ve only just confirmed that ForzaTech will be the engine for the game.

Xbox RPGs: Starfield in 2022, Avowed in 2023, Fable in 2024, Project Inxile in 2025 (and The Outer Worlds 2 somewhere in the middle).

[andrew_schmidt (HaloGaming08)]

Rewatching the 2020 footage for a comparison video compared to 2021 Holy crap that delay was worth it

[saintsflow20]

@tbassett

I have nothing but respect for Phil Spencer but one mistake he has made was the handling of Tomb Raider exclusivity.

Sony biased media/fans hounded Microsoft until they cracked and told them the length of the deal and when it was going to be available on PS. And they never did another deal like that.

So you rewarded the cry babies and have them what they wanted. That’s why there’s this non stop outrage about Starfield. They figure crying loud enough worked last time and Xbox buckled. Maybe they’ll do it again.

I am seeing very little outrage over Starfield. In fact I see more fanboys being put in their places than outrage. The majority of people are okay with Bethesda being Xbox from now on. There will always be fanboy tears over everything, but I am not seeing the same level of outrage as Tomb Raider.

[euV2]

@Shakez

Yeah, they’ve been hiring like crazy too, no way it goes past 2023.

The PG website still shows around 70 open positions for the Fable team alone and around 30 for Forza Horizon. I don’t know how up to date their website is but those are a lot of open positions for game in full production. I’m still expecting the game to hit in mid to late 2023 but wouldn’t be surprised if it slipped to 2024.

Edit: I have also seen 1 person on twitter from the Fable team help on Forza Horizon. Maybe a small percentage of the Fable team helped push Forza out this year. I could see the Forza helping out Fable too if required.