Xbox Game Studios |OT4| This is for Studio talk. Studios. It's the Studios OT. Studio talk here (Part 1)

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@PoderickPayne

Aww man, the people who love to say “this conversation should go the that game’s own thread” don’t know what to do now. We’re talking about two different 1st party game devs at the same time. Yikes!!!

In all seriousness though. As much as I love The Coalition and Gears. Let’s be real…they’ve had the easier task. Gears is a much smaller suite and a much smaller scale than Halo. They did a great job with it, but I feel like Halo would be much harder on them, if they had been working on that instead

And we’ll never know how they would have handled that. 343 has had some monumental expectations and workload to fill. I’ll wait until Infinite drops before I make my conclusions on them

[PoderickPayne (Travis Norris)]

@javycane

Were it so easy

[Deadwing88]

@PoderickPayne

To me, that is the same thing

So I’m not allowed to express to my personal opinion… or be excused of shitposting or trolling.

Ok.

[mrbobman15 (Giorgio)]

Why does it take forever for Microsoft Xbox to release exclusive games NOW when they have more studios than Sony, Nintendo, EA or Activision? Did they forget to moneyhat exclusives like their competitors or something?

Back in like 2013-16 they didn’t have this issue as much because they would just pay for 3rd party exclusivity on Capcom And Square Enix titles. Rise of the Tomb Raider and Dead Rising 3 + 4 go to alongside first party.

And straight up moneyhatted Titanfall 1, the biggest title of 2013?2014? And they even had okay games in between that like ReCore and Ryse. Just stuff to be in the news cycle.

Its kinda nuts but at the same time it’s like they acquired studios right before or after they released a huge multiplatform title

This is going to get into almost Hot Take territory:

• Psychonauts 2 should be an Xbox/PC exclusive title
• Ori 1 and 2 shouldn’t have been ported to Nintendo Switch, its just another reason not to get an Xbox
• Microsoft should’ve attempted to acquire IOI Interactive as soon as there was industry chatter that Square Enix was going to sell off IOI Interactive. Just buy them straight from Square Enix management.
• Microsoft should have fought to be the publisher for Nioh or Sekiro, what happened to their relationship with From Software and Team Ninja? They had multiple exclusives from both those teams
• Xbox Game Studios needs a major overhaul with their marketing department. I love you @Klobrille but we shouldn’t have to rely on you for industry news about first party.
• Microsoft hasn’t attempted a triple A 2nd party title in years.
• Xbox should have had a AAA 2nd party launch title with the Series X|S to go alongside Halo Infinite

Overall after owning my Series S since February I’m officially over the honeymoon period, I can’t wait for the future of Xbox but right now I’m finally understanding the lack of exclusive complaints. We need more exclusive titles.

As a huge RPG fan I’m very excited for the future of First Party from Xbox though, the Bethesda acquisition was MASSIVE news and I ended up playing all their titles that came to Game Pass. I’m very excited for the future, but it still feels like lightyears away just because of Microsoft respecting obligations to release stuff like Psychonauts 2 and Wasteland 3 on PlayStation.

[PoderickPayne (Travis Norris)]

@Deadwing88

So I’m not allowed to express to my personal opinion… or be excused of shitposting or trolling.

Ok.

OH AM NOT ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, UGGGHHHHH!!!

Sorry. Yes, of course you can do those things. It’s not like you reported a new rogue like game is crashing a lot, on the other era forum. That would get you a month long ban

[Deadwing88]

@PoderickPayne

OH AM NOT ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, UGGGHHHHH!!!

When did I suggest that you weren’t allowed to disagree with me…? lol.

[IdiotGuru (Justin)]

@PoderickPayne

OH AM NOT ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, UGGGHHHHH!!!

Sorry. Yes, of course you can do those things

There, there. You’re all idiots.

[Deadwing88]

@IdiotGuru

There, there. You’re all idiots.

[Proven]

@mrbobman15

…try news about first party. Microsoft hasn’t attempted a triple A 2nd party title in years. Xbox should have had a AAA 2nd party launch title with the Series X|S to go alongside Halo Infinite

Overall after owning my Series S since February I’m officially over the honeymoon period, I can’t wait for the future of Xbox but right now I’m finally understanding the lack of exclusive complaints. We need more exclusive titles. As a huge RPG fan I’m very excited for the future of First Party from Xbox though, the Bethesda acquisition was MASSIVE news and I ended up playing all their titles that came to Game Pass. I’m very excited for the future, but it still feels like lightyears away just because of Microsoft respecting obligations to release stuff like Psychonauts 2 and Wasteland 3 on PlayStation.

Psychonauts 2 and Wasteland 3 were crowdfunded games for Playstation prior to Xbox’s acquisition. It would have literally been illegal for them to not release on those platforms. They don’t own Moon Studios and they wanted to be good partners and allow the game to be on Switch where it fits perfectly. The game being ported to switch quite literally doesn’t impact you in the SLIGHTEST.

I understand your frustration. Waiting sucks. But do a little bit of research before you start making claims about why Xbox is messing up.

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@anon15396042

Technically I’m one of the doubters. I don’t see any reason why The Coalition can’t get recognition with another Gears. They’re a brilliant studio & they just got started experimenting with taking the franchise in new directions. For me, there’s no reason the next one couldn’t blow people away. Talent like TC have got will surely win out in the end.

But something like The Mandalorian just sounds too good to pass on. I can’t deny it.

Anyway, if I was you I would wait until an official announcement before serving the crow

Completely agree. Also, I’m not sure why a Guerilla Games comparison is even warranted… one has made one good game and a series of middling shooters, and the other is The Coalition. If anything, I think any and all inspiration in terms of team dynamics and multiple projects pull from within XGS more than anything else: see Obsidian, Mojang, etc.

[mrbobman15 (Giorgio)]

@mrbobman15

…try news about first party. Microsoft hasn’t attempted a triple A 2nd party title in years. Xbox should have had a AAA 2nd party launch title with the Series X|S to go alongside Halo Infinite

Overall after owning my Series S since February I’m officially over the honeymoon period, I can’t wait for the future of Xbox but right now I’m finally understanding the lack of exclusive complaints. We need more exclusive titles. As a huge RPG fan I’m very excited for the future of First Party from Xbox though, the Bethesda acquisition was MASSIVE news and I ended up playing all their titles that came to Game Pass. I’m very excited for the future, but it still feels like lightyears away just because of Microsoft respecting obligations to release stuff like Psychonauts 2 and Wasteland 3 on PlayStation.

I’m looking forward to The Gunk, It sounds great from everything the developers have talked about so far. But why hasn’t there been much of an attempt from Microsoft to advertise it harder as “This is just one of the reasons why you should buy an Xbox.”

The fact that the trailer for this Xbox console exclusive only has 144k views should be a wake up call for Microosft to improve their marketing. By comparison Buxsnax, one of those indie/AA games that has console exclusivity on PlayStation was a viral success the second the first trailer hit. Why is that? The Gunk was one of the premiere titles during the Xbox Series X gameplay premiere event.

At the very least why wasn’t the trailer named something like “The Gunk - -Reveal Trailer| Console Exclusive”?

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@mrbobman15

…try news about first party. Microsoft hasn’t attempted a triple A 2nd party title in years. Xbox should have had a AAA 2nd party launch title with the Series X|S to go alongside Halo Infinite

Overall after owning my Series S since February I’m officially over the honeymoon period, I can’t wait for the future of Xbox but right now I’m finally understanding the lack of exclusive complaints. We need more exclusive titles. As a huge RPG fan I’m very excited for the future of First Party from Xbox though, the Bethesda acquisition was MASSIVE news and I ended up playing all their titles that came to Game Pass. I’m very excited for the future, but it still feels like lightyears away just because of Microsoft respecting obligations to release stuff like Psychonauts 2 and Wasteland 3 on PlayStation.

Must we repeat the same misguided argument ad nauseam every damn week? I’m beyond bored with this string of concern.

[mrbobman15 (Giorgio)]

@Proven

Psychonauts 2 and Wasteland 3 were crowdfunded games for Playstation prior to Xbox’s acquisition. It would have literally been illegal for them to not release on those platforms. They don’t own Moon Studios and they wanted to be good partners and allow the game to be on Switch where it fits perfectly. The game being ported to switch quite literally doesn’t impact you in the SLIGHTEST.

I understand your frustration. Waiting sucks. But do a little bit of research before you start making claims about why Xbox is messing up.

I believe Microsoft is in a very healthy position, they have a very Aggressive future ahead of them. It just feels like Microsoft passed by a ton of open opportunities at launch, they let Sony take the lead right at the start.

[Biggzy (Hassan)]

@Knottian

Must we repeat the same misguided argument ad nauseam every damn week? I’m beyond bored with this string of concern.

No. We need to have someone else almost every week bringing up the same points without adding anything new to the conversation, rinse and repeat.

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@mrbobman15

I believe Microsoft is in a very healthy position, they have a very Aggressive future ahead of them. It just feels like Microsoft passed by a ton of open opportunities at launch, they let Sony take the lead right at the start.

Can I introduce you to this thing called COVID? Also, lest you forget, most of the “launch exclusives” for PS5 were literally in the same boat as Xbox’s output: cross gen. Furthermore, when you have an additional year for your devs to work towards what was supposed to be a 2019 release, it’s a bit easier to produce. I think some of these concerns are greatly unwarranted given the current global situation and the fact that Xbox has far more studios, better hardware, and a suite of tools that are going to surprise people beyond what a couple good exclusives at launch can do.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Knottian

Also, I’m not sure why a Guerilla Games comparison is even warranted

I use the Guerilla Game comparison because its the easiest one to make lol.

[mcolt]

@Deadwing88

Are these leaked images…?

From this twitter account.

Some (maybe all) are from the holiday update video:

Psychonauts 2 // Holiday Update 2020

[IdiotGuru (Justin)]

@mrbobman15

… I’m looking forward to The Gunk, It sounds great from everything the developers have talked about so far. But why hasn’t there been much of an attempt from Microsoft to advertise it harder as “This is just one of the reasons why you should buy an Xbox.”

We don’t even have a release date. Not sure why’d they’d have to push hard on marketing for that or Psychonauts 2 yet.

Steamworld Dig 2 and Psychonauts are two of my all-time favorite games, so I do certainly hope XGS give both of these games the publicity they deserve.

[Mort]

@Knottian

Can I introduce you to this thing called COVID? Also, lest you forget, most of the “launch exclusives” for PS5 were literally in the same boat as Xbox’s output: cross gen. Furthermore, when you have an additional year for your devs to work towards what was supposed to be a 2019 release, it’s a bit easier to produce. I think some of these concerns are greatly unwarranted given the current global situation and the fact that Xbox has far more studios, better hardware, and a suite of tools that are going to surprise people beyond what a couple good exclusives at launch can do.

While I do agree with your post, lets not pretend that Covid-19 has only affected Xbox and use that as an excuse in comparison to others.

[Proven]

@mrbobman15

I believe Microsoft is in a very healthy position, they have a very Aggressive future ahead of them. It just feels like Microsoft passed by a ton of open opportunities at launch, they let Sony take the lead right at the start.

@mrbobman15

I believe Microsoft is in a very healthy position, they have a very Aggressive future ahead of them. It just feels like Microsoft passed by a ton of open opportunities at launch, they let Sony take the lead right at the start.

Both companies are selling every console they can make.

What “lead” does Sony have?

And even countering my own point, Xbox is way more than selling consoles. Their goal is to grow Game Pass and grow their MAU. They are growing like crazy, there’s no evidence that a lack of first party games in the first 9 months of the Series X/S generation is holding them back.