Xbox Game Studios |OT3| Once more....with feeling (Part 1)

[Staffy]

@peter42O

He basically confirmed it in a tweet a while back. I don’t remember word for word. There has to be a finale for Wolfenstein so we can finally kill off Hitler. If there’s no Wolfenstein III, then in a way, defeats the purpose of rebooting the franchise as there’s no ultimate payoff in the end.

Thats true. This is likely it.

[DeoGame]

@CryOn

Let’s see what Xbox is doing on this show.

Xbox Introduction and Gaming Vision (M) Rod Chang／Xbox (Microsoft)／Head of Gaming Partnership, Asia

This is what it’s listed as. It’s at 2:30 am EST on Friday.

[LiamS]

@PsyDec

On Rand and Jez’s podcast, Jez said that 1 of the 2 ‘unannounced’ games isnt actually unannounced.

Thoughts?

I half think that it might be hellblade 2.

I think this is possible for a couple reasons

1. We dont know how big the game is, if it has a similiar scope as hellblade 1 I could see it being almost done
2. we saw what was purportedly in engine realtime gameplay at the game awards 2019, that was more than a year ago now!
3. Hellblade 1 was made with a tiny subset of the overall team with a lot of restriction on budget and manpower etc, if a larger portion of the team and some outsourcing was used I could see hell blade 2 being close.

Its literally the only game from xbox first party aside from halo infinite that we have seen game play from, (yeah I know, real time in engine, but thats more than we have seen from the other studios.) so surely its not that far away, even if I originally thought it was 2022.

[Ratchet_231]

@LiamS

…f think that it might be hellblade 2. I think this is possible for a couple reasons

We dont know how big the game is, if it has a similiar scope as hellblade 1 I could see it being almost done we saw what was purportedly in engine realtime gameplay at the game awards 2019, that was more than a year ago now! Hellblade 1 was made with a tiny subset of the overall team with a lot of restriction on budget and manpower etc, if a larger portion of the team and some outsourcing was used I could see hell blade 2 being close.

Its literally the only game from xbox first party aside from halo infinite that we have seen game play from, (yeah I know, real time in engine, but thats more than we have seen from the other studios.) so surely its not that far away, even if I originally thought it was 2022.

I feel really good about Hellblade 2 in 2022 tbh. I think there’s a chance it could even be first half of 2022. The game has been baking in the oven in a while, and you have to think like, Hellblade was probably in development for at least 6-9 months when they showed it at the game awards, possibly longer.

the only wild card in this would be covid-19 delays, which maybe effect it, in which case I’d still say sometime in 2022, but probably second half.

[LiamS]

@DeoGame

Xbox Introduction and Gaming Vision (M) Rod Chang／Xbox (Microsoft)／Head of Gaming Partnership, Asia

This is what it’s listed as. It’s at 2:30 am EST on Friday.

Sounds like they might announce a keystone partnership, the guy making the presentation is literally the head of gaming partnerships, Asia. Its not like hes the head of gaming acquisitions, Asia lol.

Which asian game company would make a good partnership for xbox? aside from tencent because MS considers them competition. Maybe smilegate?

Pearl Abyss would be a good acquisition for ms tbh.

[LiamS]

@Ratchet_231

I feel really good about Hellblade 2 in 2022 tbh. I think there’s a chance it could even be first half of 2022. The game has been baking in the oven in a while, and you have to think like, Hellblade was probably in development for at least 6-9 months when they showed it at the game awards, possibly longer.

the only wild card in this would be covid-19 delays, which maybe effect it, in which case I’d still say sometime in 2022, but probably second half.

ninja theory was acquired in 2018 which was after hellblade 1 was released. I know that they released bleeding edge since then but that was only made by a small subset of people at the studio. So in all likelihood hellblade 2 was in pre-production as microsoft acquired ninja theory, and entered full production shortly after.

So likely it had ~1.5-2 years of dev time when they released the trailer.

[Ratchet_231]

@LiamS

ninja theory was acquired in 2018 which was after hellblade 1 was released. I know that they released bleeding edge since then but that was only made by a small subset of people at the studio. So in all likelihood hellblade 2 was in pre-production as microsoft acquired ninja theory, and entered full production shortly after.

So likely it had ~1.5-2 years of dev time when they released the trailer.

yeah, I just remember when they announced it, Phil said it was on the company roadmap when they were acquired, so idk if that necessarily means the game was in pre-production before they bought Ninja theory, or entered pre-production shortly after, but I imagine it was baking in the oven for a good amount of time by the time they showed the trailer, and yeah as you said…it’s been over a year since said trailer.

[andrew_schmidt (HaloGaming08)]

[Thebaconlife]

@2021ERA

IMO, Doesn’t matter whether they’re Native or not. In the event where GP and it’s games were some how available on PS5 and Switch MS should just get out of the HW business as that would literally tank Xbox console sales.
Why would anyone with a brain even consider an Xbox if they could get the full suite of XB 1st party games and Sony’s 1st party games on a PS or Nintendo console??

Totally right. I consider myself a die hard xbox fan but if the games cameto ps even if it was just streaming I would see no need to have an xbox and I would just get a ps. All of my spending dollars would go over there as well which is why I think GP will not be on ps. They should just release all there games on gamepass and have it as an app for pc and tvs etc. You want to play these exclusives. 15 bucks please and you can play them where you want

[PsyDec]

@andrew_schmidt

TGS?

[pg2g]

@2021ERA

The difference would be that the PS5 can handle the higher quality assets the way Stadia does.

Nah, there is no difference. Streaming is streaming regardless of what device is at the client side. It’d be running of XSX in the cloud.

@Thebaconlife

Totally right. I consider myself a die hard xbox fan but if the games cameto ps even if it was just streaming I would see no need to have an xbox and I would just get a ps. All of my spending dollars would go over there as well which is why I think GP will not be on ps. They should just release all there games on gamepass and have it as an app for pc and tvs etc. You want to play these exclusives. 15 bucks please and you can play them where you want

This really makes no sense. You would see no need to buy an Xbox because you can stream the games on PS5? The whole point of streaming it is doing it without an Xbox. You can do it on a TV or any other device. A streaming app being available on PS5 makes you no longer wabt Xbox hardware?

[Thebaconlife]

@pg2g

This really makes no sense. You would see no need to buy an Xbox because you can stream the games on PS5? The whole point of streaming it is doing it without an Xbox. You can do it on a TV or any other device. A streaming app being available on PS5 makes you no longer wabt Xbox hardware?

my point is if xbox puts its games on ps5 streaming or not it devalues xbox as a whole. I think a lot of people see it this way.

[OneBadMutha]

@Thebaconlife

my point is if xbox puts its games on ps5 streaming or not it devalues xbox as a whole. I think a lot of people see it this way.

This seems to be a mental thing with gamers caught up in the years of console wars. There’s no difference streaming from a PlayStation, a TV or a Fridge assuming the internet connection is the same to all the devices. PlayStation gamers can already use their Dual Sense controller when streaming from their TV in the near future. It’s too late…the Xbox console is already devalued under this logic.

If we’re looking at the business of gaming as it impacts to the Xbox gamer’s future value, I’d argue the number of people using Game Pass is more important than the number of consoles sold. I don’t expect streaming on PlayStation due to Sony’s resistance. Just saying it wouldn’t devalue anything differently.

[pg2g]

@OneBadMutha

This seems to be a mental thing with gamers caught up in the years of console wars. There’s no difference streaming from a PlayStation, a TV or a Fridge assuming the internet connection is the same to all the devices. PlayStation gamers can already use their Dual Sense controller when streaming from their TV in the near future. It’s too late…the Xbox console is already devalued under this logic.

If we’re looking at the business of gaming as it impacts to the Xbox gamer’s future value, I’d argue the number of people using Game Pass is more important than the number of consoles sold. I don’t expect streaming on PlayStation due to Sony’s resistance. Just saying it wouldn’t devalue anything differently.

Thank you for confirming i am not crazy lol

[OneBadMutha]

@pg2g

Thank you for confirming i am not crazy lol

LOL it’s OK. I think it’s really hard for the average gamer to see it right now. Where the industry is headed. Plastic wars are the minor leagues of the gaming industry. It’s about the ecosystem and Game Pass Ultimate is the heart of the Xbox ecosystem regardless of where it’s being accessed. If you win cloud and subscription in the future, you lead the gaming industry in the future.

I try not to repeat it too often here because people take it the wrong way. If they accomplish their cloud/subscription goals, it’s only going to make the Xbox console better.

[andrew_schmidt (HaloGaming08)]

As I’ve said for months content is king we are heading into the exclusive content war now its a whole another ball game now thats why they must have bethseda games be exclusive if not what the hell is the point of spending 7.5 billion dollars just like games from obsidian, double fine, ninja theory etc future titles from bethseda will be exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem you don’t spend 7.5 billion dollars just to make multi plats and as nate the hate said last night more acquisitions are coming get ready ladies and gentlemen the next couple of years for Xbox are gonna be fun

[peter42O]

@andrew_schmidt

As I’ve said for months content is king we are heading into the exclusive content war now its a whole another ball game now thats why they must have bethseda games be exclusive if not what the hell is the point of spending 7.5 billion dollars just like games from obsidian, double fine, ninja theory etc future titles from bethseda will be exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem you don’t spend 7.5 billion dollars just to make multi plats and as nate the hate said last night more acquisitions are coming get ready ladies and gentlemen the next couple of years for Xbox are gonna be fun

This.

[TheGanker101]

@andrew_schmidt

why they must have bethseda games be exclusive i

They most likely will be. There are frauds in the industry like Gary Whitta and Alanah Pearce who are arguing “but Microsoft is teh good guy and they’ll keep putting games on Playstation” and also “bu buh but think of teh gamerz”

Its always a different standard with Microsoft. They have to be the good guy all so that Xbox can continue to be the joke of the industry and continuously getting bashed for having “no games”

• 2016: Microsoft need to work on their exclusive games! They need to give me a reason to buy an Xbox!

• 2017: Microsoft need to work on their exclusive games! They need to give me a reason to buy an Xbox!

• 2018: Microsoft need to work on their exclusive games! They need to give me a reason to buy an Xbox!

• 2019: Microsoft need to work on their exclusive games! They need to give me a reason to buy an Xbox!

• 2020: Don’t make Microsoft games exclusives to Xbox! Bring them to PS5!

I am sick of it and I hope MS continues flexing the wallet, buying more studios and telling Sony an d Nintendo that if they want these games on their platform they better be willing to let Game Pass on their platform.

[DeoGame]

Do you think we’re getting anything today? There are murmurs but idk.

[peter42O]

@TheGanker101

They most likely will be. There are frauds in the industry like Gary Whitta and Alanah Pearce who are arguing “but Microsoft is teh good guy and they’ll keep putting games on Playstation” and also “bu buh but think of teh gamerz”

Its always a different standard with Microsoft. They have to be the good guy all so that Xbox can continue to be the joke of the industry and continuously getting bashed for having “no games”

• 2016: Microsoft need to work on their exclusive games! They need to give me a reason to buy an Xbox!
• 2017: Microsoft need to work on their exclusive games! They need to give me a reason to buy an Xbox!
• 2018: Microsoft need to work on their exclusive games! They need to give me a reason to buy an Xbox!
• 2019: Microsoft need to work on their exclusive games! They need to give me a reason to buy an Xbox!
• 2020: Don’t make Microsoft games exclusives to Xbox! Bring them to PS5!

I am sick of it and I hope MS continues flexing the wallet, buying more studios and telling Sony an d Nintendo that if they want these games on their platform they better be willing to let Game Pass on their platform.

Agree except for the end.

For years, what you posted above is exactly what everyone has been saying and now, that they’re doing it, it’s as if those same people can’t accept or handle it but too bad for them.

Microsoft was basically a sleeping bear and it was poked and prodded for the last several years. Well, that bear woke up, is hungry and pissed off.

All those people shouldn’t have poked the bear.

I believe that Microsoft should NOT put Game Pass on a Sony/Nintendo platform even if they paid Microsoft for it. Microsoft and Spencer need to do what they have to in order to make Xbox the best place to play video games, period. In no way, shape or form would allowing Game Pass on competing platforms accomplish this.