I like how everyone assumes Forza isn’t 2022 now solely because some random person on Twitter claims its 2023.
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These Twitter insiders are all full of it and have terrible track records. I can’t believe anyone falls for what they say.
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A 2023 FM wouldn’t surprise me, I’ll say that. We’re all basically guessing with no information and the difference between late 2022 and early 2023 is so small that it’s a toss up.
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It was just a bunch of people high on copium and hopium . I remember a guy on this forum saying Wolfenstein 3 is 2022 . 
Isnt that the main joy of leaks and rumors? The idea of they may be real or fake?
Folks put too much emphasis on the year. People act like Q4 2022 - Q1 2023 aren’t the same as Q1 2023 - Q2 2023.
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Wolfenstein 3 is a weird one. We don’t even really know if they are actively working on it at the moment. We only have an old Pete Hines confirmation that they are working on it, but that was quite a while ago.
Would be amazing though.
Morrowind 20th anniversary remake. Let’s go !!!
Source: my dreams
Machine Games studio is not big enough to make 2 AAA games at the same time . I just do not believe it .
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Wolfenstein-gate is dependent on Indiana Jones being so early that it is still pre production, and has a small amount of staff (IMO)
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I’m not sure about that TBH. We don’t know at which state of development Indie is, so it’s hard to tell how many staff members are working on it. Usually the amount of staff scales up the further along development is. The Indiana Jones team might be 25 man strong at the moment, but we have no way of knowing.
TLDR: usually staff size is a decent indicator on how many games an AAA studio is working on, but without the context of how far a game is in development it’s not an end all.
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Best case scenario:
Wolfenstein 3 & Pentiment miracle-release for 2022: 2022 saved. Starfield, Redfall, Forza, Contraband, Avowed, Kojima, Project Midnight & more for 2023: 2023 is absolute kino.
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Wolfenstein doesn’t exist, Forza Motorsport 8 is 2023, Kojima? nah, he’s busy counting the Sony bills.
IT’S OVER! , pack it up boys, we’ll come back stronger next year.
Game over…
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Also now we’re talking about Wolfenstein 3. The last time I checked Otherera for a bit, our cousins have seemingly started a cult dedicated to Wolfenstein 3 releasing in 2022. Otherera sure is a strange place.
According to Hines one year ago the game was in “very, very, very” early stages of development so I guess a Wolfie 3 could still be a possibility.
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When studios are making two games at the same time it doesn’t mean half the staff is on each
BGS are working on Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6 at the same time not because they are a massive studio but because they have a small amount of them working on pre-production while everyone else is on Starfield
I imagine this is how most AAA studios work nowadays, there’s always a second project, doesn’t mean it has the same amount of attention as the other
As for Forza’s date, its fine not believing rumors but id say that dude is probably more reliable than a 2022 date thats been born out of nothing more than everyone here’s hopium
I know . But here we are talking about MG releasing wolfenstein 3 in 2022-23 and Indiana Jones in 23-24 . This means both games should be in active development and the staff should be stacked , which it isnt . This is why Im saying Wolfenstein 3 is not in active development right now and we are not going to get the game in 22-23 .
Grubb was the source for FM2022, so it’s more than Hopium at the very least.
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Indiana Jones is 2027
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Did he actually say that at some point?