Xbox+Bethesda: Discussion Thread

[TavishHill]

@Staffy

That’s why I’m starting to wondering if there could be a Xbox One version in place after all. I mean even if there hadn’t been stock issues, many players are still with their Xbox Ones and can’t play Starfield.

There was a point where Todd said that it could come to Xbox One, something along those lines it was.

I hope they ditch X1 and instead let those gamers just stream the game via X1.

[WhiteDevilMan]

@TavishHill

I really, REALLY hope not. It’d be a damn shame if they had Starfield and Halo and Forza Horizon and maybe even Wolfenstein 3 all for the holidays along with more Game Pass growth, the huge efforts to materialize streaming options everywhere, and proper holiday with All Access…only to have that all be somewhat wasted by stock issues.

I read @Cerysnetics 's post differently. I read it that MS may keep games exclusive LONGER because MS doesn’t see Sony getting a large amount of PS5’s out-the-door and therefore the smaller install base makes a full exclusive less risky or a timed exclusive less profitable when released on the other platform. But I’m reading during work breaks and admit to potential lapses in context.

[TavishHill]

@WhiteDevilMan

I read 's post differently. I read it that MS may keep games exclusive LONGER because MS doesn’t see Sony getting a large amount of PS5’s out-the-door and therefore the smaller install base makes a full exclusive less risky or a timed exclusive less profitable when released on the other platform. But I’m reading during work breaks and admit to potential lapses in context.

Yeah depending on the balance of console availability things could really swing either way. Hopefully it turns out well for Xbox.

[peter42O]

@anon15396042

Honestly I think a lot of folk (not only aiming this at you) need to just chill & let this situation develop. MS have been setting up the pieces to play a longer game for quite some time now. The Zenimax purchase, as huge as it is, was only their latest move. I honestly don’t think that we, as Xbox fans, have a lot to worry about.

Agreed. This is the best solution for now.

[ChuckeRearmed]

@TavishHill

…but the reason it is more expensive is because Sony would need to compensate for the residual sales from the Xbox version…which is our point. The same is true for something like Starfield on PS5. If it came later there are still sales to be tapped into and it’d be from die hard Sony fans who would never consider buying an Xbox to play those games.

Nobody cares about die hard fans. If it were the case Street Fighter V would come to Xbox and bunch of other games too. We had a generation without Yakuza games and nobody cared about “lost sales”, yet MS should bother. MS should pull the plug on anything related to Playstation. No reason to provide Playstation with additional console sales it would get from the people who will buy Playstation to play Starfield.

We should agree to disagree.

[anon15396042]

@javycane

Cant believe that there are xbox centric fans here that think its okay for Xbox to spend 7.5Billion in a publisher, invest in development, tech and salary and think its just fine to give games to the competitor that is blasting you in sales by like 3 to 1 who at every chances tries to lock games away from you.

This seems like an unfair characterisation of what some people are trying to say here. I don’t think anyone is actually arguing “yeah fuck it just release everything on PlayStation as well why not YOLO!”

For me, some people are just trying to look at this whole situation in a slightly more dispassionate way & consider why it could potentially be less straightforward than we, as Xbox fans, think or would prefer.

This is an industry shaking move that Xbox has made here. They laid down 7.5 billion dollars to help build something special for us Xbox gamers. Maybe it’s a good idea to, as I said, just chill & let the situation develop for now.

[Cerysnetics (Cerys)]

Yeah @TavishHill @WhiteDevilMan little of column A little of B.

Just thinking aloud that so many have not been able to get either console yet, hardware supply may be a large consideration as well. TBH I feel it may work in MS favour, the longer things go on supply constrained and the more “good news” in terms of MS developers and yes even timed exclusives of games to keep MS mindshare high, then the more likely those champing at the bit for new hardware would consider even timed exclusives a big enough pull to move to Xbox and gamepass.

Thats me just presuming a little that a majority are more platform agnostic than we think and MS are taking big steps to make their ecosystem more appealing right now to convert customers.

Sorry bit dopey and sleepy if that doesn’t make sense.

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

Having games on rival platforms is acceptable. Having no kind of times exclusivity will be outrageous.

[ChuckeRearmed]

@Cerysnetics

TBH I feel it may work in MS favour, the longer things go on supply constrained and the more “good news” in terms of MS developers and yes even timed exclusives of games to keep MS mindshare high,

Console scarcity works very in favor of Microsoft, because Playstation would not doubt outsell it 2:1 with the free stock available. And all they “faiings” in messaging, would have sold additional amount of consoles. MS is incredible lucky and if supply constraints remain, their push for XCloud might bring a lot of benefit is they are to update the server blades fast. People who are not able to buy the console, might want to subscribe to a service.

I continue to repeat but Xbox is in unfavorable odds almost everywhere. Each game coming to a competitors platform, is additional console sold by the competitor. And Playstation will sell a lot, simply because it is Playstation. It will get games, that Xbox might not get at all.

[Staffy]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

Having games on rival platforms is acceptable. Having no kind of times exclusivity will be outrageous.

Imagine Xbox announcing Starfield as multiplatform and day one for all, this E3. Lol, nah I rather not imagine that. I can’t see that happening.

Releasing on rival platforms for the time being because of contracts yep, after that? Nein!

[ChuckeRearmed]

@Staffy

Imagine Xbox announcing Starfield as multiplatform and day one for all, this E3. Lol, nah I rather not imagine that. I can’t see that happening.

Console launch exclusive. And we find people defending that.

[TavishHill]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

Having games on rival platforms is acceptable. Having no kind of times exclusivity will be outrageous.

I think we can safely say that some will be full exclusives, some will be timed, and others we dunno yet. I say we know some will be timed based on the CFO’s language. The only game I personally think has a chance of being day and date on PS5 is Wolfenstein 3.

[Visceron]

Didn’t know Bethesda is as old as me. And their HQ is 20 mins away from me. Crazy.

[WhiteDevilMan]

@Visceron

Didn’t know Bethesda is as old as me. And their HQ is 20 mins away from me. Crazy.

You two should spend your next birthdays together!

Share photos!

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

God bless Todd

[LucasTaves]

Ok there’s no way anyone can see the beginning of that roundtable and not think the games will be exclusive as soon as possible.

Phil literally said they couldn’t decide on anything up until now and only now they will start sitting down and deciding everything.

[Deadwing88]

Jeff Grubb (JeffGrubb)

[Visceron]

@Visceron

Didn’t know Bethesda is as old as me. And their HQ is 20 mins away from me. Crazy.

Haha I wish. I’m sure I’d just spend my birthday with Bethesda HQ campus security

[LucasTaves]

There it is

[Searsy82]

Phil laying it down.