Xbox Acquisition |OT6| If this is about competition, let us have competition

Just a rough estimation based on an evaluation of 4A Games (36m in 2020). I just adjusted it, but I think even 30m would be too much for Platinum.

What?

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sarcasm

Sarcasm regarding what? The talk about stripped down version is about Xbox Live infrastructure (not the games). It has nothing to do with the disparity regarding PC and Xbox Game Pass releases.

Basically microsoft wants full xcloud on other platform (no first party only but third party and all other perks) and platform holders are not happy. They are willing to put F2P games outside Game Pass though. So I expected various F2P COD being available everywhere and via cloud too.

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If Nintendo and Sony want Xcloud, release a browser.

Apologies I forget those publisher’s often as they are not mentioned as much. I’ve reworked the list including them and put the companies gaming rank by market cap in front of there name.For whatever reason smilegate was not ranked and I had a lot of trouble nailing down a current market cap for them.i have also included a potential purchase price not including existing company debt as we don’t know how Microsoft would handle it.

8- EA- 33.9 Billion. 50 Billion

 WB/Discovery- 33.6 Billion.  50 Billion

10- Take 2- 19.6 Billion. 29 Billion

11- Nexon- 17.8 Billion. 27 Billion

13- Bandaid Namco- 15.9. 23 Billion

16- Krafton-8.8 Billion. 13 Billion

17- Embracer-8.7 Billion. 13 Billion

19- Konami-7.2 Billion. 10 Billion

20-NCsoft-5.9 Billion. 8 Billion

21-Capcom-5.5 Billion. 8 Billion

22-Square-5.4 Billion. 8 Billion

23-Koei Techmo-5.4. 8 Billion

25-Ubisoft-5.0 Billion. 7 Billion

27-Net Marble-4.3 Billion. 6 Billion

29-Sega-3.5 Billion. 5 Billion

31-Cd Project-2.1 Billion. 3 Billion

 Smilegate-1 Billion.               1.5 Billion 

43- COM2US- 700 Million. 1 Billion

47-Pearl Abyss- 520 Million. 700 Million

53-Nacon- 450 Million. 600 Million

58-Gravity- 330 Million 450 Million

61-PCF- 310 Million. 440 Million

63-Focus Home- 270 Million. 400 Million

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Awesome work :+1: - I knew Nexon were big but not that big!

It makes sense when you look at the top of this list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-played_video_games_by_player_count

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Thank you for this!!

Oooooooh so with Acti “gone” EA becomes the top dog now among independant third party publishsers? Wonder how they will handle that power!!!

Edit: wait, forgot EA also wants to be acquired :v

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No problem, pretty interesting stuff, with ABK now swallowed up, it basically boils down to a top 5 of, platform holders Netease, and Tencent and then EA. I was very surprised to see EA negotiating to be acquired, just didn’t see them going that direction.

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Kind of amazing how big Tencent really is with almost no one really knowing who the are

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Me neither, well actually I think that caught everyone by surprise :sweat_smile: it doenst necesarily mean they are doing bad right? Would like to know why they were/are in that process. Maybe @profjjj could enlight us a little bit?

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Nacon seems like a good diversified acquisition:

  • Affordable hence under the radar of scrutiny
  • Do varied AA titles that can be amazing with some budget help - think how Train sim and FIA racing can reach Forza and flight sim levels
  • My main reason is that Nacon makes accessories for Xcloud and also controllers. With a push into Xcloud and Xbox itself not even requiring a console (Samsung TVs) more peripherals would be needed. Vertical integration in this space just makes business sense.
  • We may get proper KB/M support for consoles this way
  • Imagine design lab for the controller on your phone
  • Baguette
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No one on the west. But we kinda know actually, we just don’t care. Tencent is essentially Microsoft + Facebook I believe.

For me personally it’s that none of their games appeal to me. Riot Games is technically their biggest studio with League of Legends and Valorant, that or SuperCell with Clash of Clans. EDIT: Forgot to mention TiMi Studio which is their biggest one (Mobile).

Most of ‘their’ biggest games are actually just publishing deals.

  • PUBG is Krafton.
  • CrossFire is Smilegate.
  • Dungeon Fighter Online is Nexon.

Tencent has started buying minority shares but the big games people actually associate with Tencent aren’t ‘theirs’.

Ideally Xbox needs to get some of these lucrative publishing deals in the eastern markets too :wink:.

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Agreed, they just seem to have their tentacles in everything and their market cap at 408 billion is ridiculous. Here in the states most gamers do not know Tencent in fact they haven’t even heard of them. I know many and most gamers don’t know much about publisher’s or studios for that matter, if I had to put a number on it I’d say about 95 percent don’t know much outside of platform holders, people are just are not that knowledgeable on the subject.

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Looking at their income TiMi studio is ridiculously big. They are biggest video game studio in the world by revenue.

Ngl I thought sega would be more. Interesting :face_with_monocle:.

regarding the fact they would want xcloud on PS over game pass. You could make a case for switch since its underpowered but PS, nah

that is the issue, they don’t

yeah out of the mid to big publishers they are 2nd smallest (CD project reds insane drop) but that isn’t just SEGA…thats is sammy SEGA with a ton of other divisions like pachinko and resorts so it just puts their actual size into perspective (not trying to do the SEGA bad shit BTW, just pointing it out, please don’t start an argument over this)

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I apologize I should have stated that is the market cap for Sega/Sammy as a whole company not just Sega the gaming division so it would actually be less. Yes I agree with you it is very interesting, dollar for dollar Sega would be the best Acquisition as far as a IP to dollar cost ratio.

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I was about to question this but I am assuming you are refering to the fact they would be really cheap when compared to other publishers…am I correct there?

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Yeah, just the cost of the gaming division with all those studios and IP, fairly small purchase price for what the would get in return

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