Xbox Acquisition |OT2| Something, Something, Snowball Effect

And likewise, if you just need some interesting facts or lore about the things you’ll be seeing/visiting… I’d be happy to let you know. I literally live there. My office is represented, and if I suspend my disbelief, there’s a shack located roughly at the location of my home.

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So now it’s not getting off topic?

Anyways … as I mentioned before, Xbox didn’t have these many studios when they launched Gamepass.

Sony will have more at the start then Xbox ever did

It sure will be a catch up first but Sony can definitely succed.

Also, Sony not having enough resources like xbox is true.

But what matters to you? Games or for how much the studio was paid to make the game.

Also, it isn’t like Sony’s hand is tied and they can’t get or raise money. They can get investment and raise there share and market price and cash reserve.

They can’t do it like Xbox but they can do enough. It’s just about the right time.

Flip I switch you say???

I said plenty of time… The right time… They not gonna do it any time soon. It won’t be a flip of a switch either. But it will surely be faster then Xbox when comparing the time line.

Imagine one of the stakeholder’s children said “Is this game coming to Game Pass?” :rofl:

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Uncharted was played by approx 35 million players (officially announced by sony) on a single platform

So after scrolling through this madman of a thread, I’m pleased to announce that Burger King will be acquiring Square Enix.

Thank you.

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Walmart. After all they have some cloud platform or something.

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But who gets Wendys?

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Wendy’s judgmental. She’s going to Quantic Dream.

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As others have said, this is off-topic so drop it. You’re trolling a bit hard for a point that is easily verified to be contradictory to your stance; Game Pass wasn’t just throwing a switch, it was infrastructure (which Sony doesn’t have, and what they do they’re leveraging Microsoft for), billions of upfront costs that Sony can’t afford, and so many other tangible details that you’re ignoring. For what purpose? At this point, I can only guess to troll.

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My mom… she always liked trash food.

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Man …

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I am talking about specific games not a whole franchise. Anyways I still don’t think you understand how much of an uphill battle it would be. MS is going to make subscription exclusive deals or they probably are already doing that. In the future people are going to be asking which service has the better content PSnow or Gamepass? This is the question they are going to research on the internet and this is what they are going to ask sales reps at best buy. What do you think those internet tech reviewers and retail sales reps are going to say?

Also the more that Gamepass grows its user base the more MS will have to spend. Can you imagine if they were able to make a deal to get FIFA and Madden on Gamepass Day 1? Thats just a rumor right now. But I digress, there is nothing wrong with being Hulu if you are sony.

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What I think you are missing scale and budget.

the first part you are missing is the cost to align your organization around this strategy. If you look at xbox everything they do as a company is aligned around feeding gamepass to entice subscribers. Netflix does the same thing with there 40 studios creating content to release movies and series at monthly cadence as you require a much larger bank of titles coming in constantly. Sony would need to wholly shift its workforce to fit this method. That takes time, money and resources. As projects need to be scaled around this. You need different types of staff you will also need additional staff to support the service itself from IT to sales, marketing, etc.

The second part needed is data centers. If you are doing this at a scale that means you need data centers around the world. Microsoft and Amazon currently spend more than sony makes in profit in a year on datacenters between making new ones, upkeep, and maintenance. Just as netflix pays a larger chunk of its ever-growing money to amazon for its datacenter usage sony would need to pay amazon, Microsoft or google on a similar scale if not more as Latency for a movie isn’t as important it will just buffer out at the beginning leaving you with leeway for hiccups once the movie starts. In a game, data is constantly streaming in the distance a user is to datacenter is important. Even if you aren’t streaming data with an xcloud like service in your gaming subscription you still need datacenters in proximity to the user to facilitate acceptable download speeds at scale when you have 30 million or 100 million people using the service. You could also look into paying for pathing which is the path from your server to the user and number hops but that is also expensive and requires paying more people and companies to prioritize your packets over others. You also need a backend entitlement system able to support leasing and unleasing of titles to not only your service but an individual user. Sony hasn’t been the strongest in software-based solutions. As is apparent with a number of software level design issues that psn has that continually have caused issues for them. Just look at the fact it took them a decade to figure out how to do name change and its still not a great solution just a workable one without a mass redesign. Even the workaround came with a possibility of entitlement issues.

The other issue you run into is you will need more variety in your game types. Sony/playstation has said they want to focus on big blockbuster movie style games which is fine for the current model but in a subscription model you need variety. You need platformers, rpgs, strategy games, racing, sports, puzzle, etc. You need all or most of the genres represented with regular releases. You can offload some of that third parties but when you become reliant on third parties they are also operating independently and see that reliance thus they will charge you more as they will feel that they have become more important to the services success thus deserving this new rate.

Launching your titles day one into a subscription service is key because you need a low-cost draw to bring people in. If Sony isn’t putting titles into the service day one that means they are going to need to pay money for other high-profile titles to boost the numbers. They already have a subscription service without day one titles in psnow and it’s not doing much.

The biggest aspect your analysis overlooks is that a key part of gamepass is the fact that its everywhere. It just doesn’t exist on the console. Microsoft is capable of scaling this because they wholly own the backbone necessary to scale this. Sony does not. Sony would need to pay fees every step of the way. Sony doesn’t even have the assets needed to trade for services. Where Microsoft could comp or reduce datacenter rates, windows licensing rates, office 365 rates to these companies to facilitate better rates with already existing partners sony can’t do that at they don’t have anything people want beyond PlayStation.

unfortunately, i cannot elaborate further or in more detail at the moment as my lunch break is ending.

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What the fuck is going on in here?

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Off topic lol. I just came here for Xbox buying studios and was assaulted with reasons PS future gamepass will be better than Xbox Gamepass :face_with_monocle:

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Do you think Sonic’s Burgers are more of an Embracer Target or would it be White Castle.

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The last part I was able to pay attention to was talking about restaurant acquisitions, then I got hungry and kind of can’t focus as I realized I’m starving.

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And I am saying Sony has its own advantage which Xbox didn’t have. Sony and it’s games are already popular in the market. Xbox games become popular when they launched into Gamepass.

From the very beginning, all I am saying is sony can do day one sub as well with success.

But many are simply trying to tell me that sony can’t do this at all.

Never I said they will surpass Gamepass in an instant or something like that. All I said there growth in the same timeline will be faster the Gamepass. But Gamepass being everywhere makes the upper limit of the sub much higher then what PS sub could ever reach. But that can also change in next 5 to 10 years. Even Xbox cloud is still far away from its true potential. Things can change in this much time.

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WB does not own any of the significant IP they work with, with the exception of MK, which is owned by Netherealm.

WB can’t sell the IP to Lego, DC, or Harry Potter, because it’s not theirs to sell. It’s not about what amount of money MS offers. WB does not own Lego, DC, or J.K. Rowling.