Video Game Market Analysis Thread

[Jorge_Alexander_Acos (Jorge Alexander Acosta Duarte)]

@BadNews

True, I think a game like helldivers would’ve sold well on Xbox and even Nintendo if it can handle it. I def feel there’s a shift happening in the industry because budgets and consumer expectations is becoming unstainable to have games on one platform

Exiting times imdeed u.u

[BadNews]

@monkeyboy101

I do think they will,but as we’ve seen, theres not much fighting Steam.

Isnt going to help PS5 sales and PSN+ at all. Phil was smart to make the subscription about the games rather then online play.

You can’t fight steam, but you can take some market share. If Sony were to offer their games as play anywhere, then I think that can steal some sales from Steam. I thought Microsoft was going to go in that direction, but I think the tougher challenge with that are publishers not wanting that due to they prefer consumers to double dip.

[Staffy]

@BadNews

True, I think a game like helldivers would’ve sold well on Xbox and even Nintendo if it can handle it. I def feel there’s a shift happening in the industry because budgets and consumer expectations is becoming unstainable to have games on one platform

It seems Helldivers is quite good, it looks good too. Would have liked that for Xbox for sure. People can say what they want about how Sony has a dry year this year, but do they really? Solely first party wise, sure. But they have plenty great exclusive stuff coming or already out. When it comes to that I would argue they have it quite better than Xbox does.

Until May it isn’t super great for Xbox when it comes to exclusive games from third parties or first.

[monkeyboy101 (Davis)]

@Staffy

Sony has a dry year this year, but do they really?

Yes. They do. They really do. And the excuses always end the same. Sales.

[KakkaKarrotKake]

@Sparda3g

You can have a hate…whatever, but if you’re reporting from a source that’s coming from the head of the table (not tribal chief), then it is a fact. A jerk can report fact.

[pip-boy3000]

Valve were so far ahead of the game really.

[Staffy]

@monkeyboy101

Yes. They do. They really do. And the excuses always end the same. Sales.

Like I said, when it comes to first party absolutely. Although I would almost say FF7R is first party at this point, lol. I know it isn’t, but it’s also not coming to Xbox soon if at all.

But they have Helldivers, FF7R Rebirth, Ronin is not too far away now and I think there’s more. Let’s say they got the better deals.

[BadNews]

@Staffy

It seems Helldivers is quite good, it looks good too. Would have liked that for Xbox for sure. People can say what they want about how Sony has a dry year this year, but do they really? Solely first party wise, sure. But they have plenty great exclusive stuff coming or already out. When it comes to that I would argue they have it quite better than Xbox does.

Until May it isn’t super great for Xbox when it comes to exclusive games from third parties or first.

Sony, never really has a dry year because they leverage third parties to fill the gap. If they didn’t have the leverage, then yeah they would have dry year many times over imo. They have the luxury of being the go to platform for Japanese games.

[BadNews]

Honestly, starting to feel the PS5 pro isn’t real or it’s not coming out. It doesn’t make sense to release a luxury console with their low operation margin.

[Jorge_Alexander_Acos (Jorge Alexander Acosta Duarte)]

@pip-boy3000

Valve were so far ahead of the game really.

Nintendo too. All third party publishers could implode tomorrow and they would barely feel it.

[monkeyboy101 (Davis)]

@Staffy

Although I would almost say FF7R is first party at this point, lol.

Probably wont stay that way. Everyone said that about FF 16.

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

Starting to feel like chasing classic-style hardware sales is the wrong call

[Freed]

@BadNews

Honestly, starting to feel the PS5 pro isn’t real or it’s not coming out. It doesn’t make sense to release a luxury console with their low operation margin.

Probably because they can sell it at a high premium

[Hue]

@Jorge_Alexander_Acos

This is also noteworthy:

https://x.com/MatPiscatella/status/1755955958373851576?s=20 https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1755989656003555836 https://twitter.com/MatPiscatella/status/1755993642735730903

I don’t see this ever changing.

Based on the above imagine if Xbox ever went after Roblox, T2 (GTA) or Epic (Fortnite).

Maybe if the multiplatform rumours are true it’s because they are going after another big one. It would truly make them the most dominant gaming publisher out there.

[Freed]

@Hue

Based on the above imagine if Xbox ever went after Roblox, T2 (GTA) or Epic (Fortnite).

Maybe if the multiplatform rumours are true it’s because they are going after another big one. It would truly make them the most dominant gaming publisher out there.

Don’t think Microsoft will be allowed another huge acquisition at least not anytime soon, even if they put everything multiplatform, it’s not just that it’s more about their huge and quick expansion and big tech scrutiny

[Sparda3g]

https://x.com/jeffgrubb/status/1757766933020074196?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

@pg2g

Gaming finally has the eye of the money folks

5.5% margins will do that, crazy low

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

@BadNews

Sony, never really has a dry year because they leverage third parties to fill the gap. If they didn’t have the leverage, then yeah they would have dry year many times over imo. They have the luxury of being the go to platform for Japanese games.

They don’t even need to “leverage” 3rd parties, they completely rely on them for ongoing revenue. Their minor success as of late is due to being the default console. Still that’s returned jack shit in making real money compared to what they spend.

[Freed]

@Doncabesa

5.5% margins will do that, crazy low

Weren’t they operating a loss most of the PS3 gen

[SilentJay76]

@BadNews

Honestly, starting to feel the PS5 pro isn’t real or it’s not coming out. It doesn’t make sense to release a luxury console with their low operation margin.

Pretty sure it is real. Sony is still trying to pad their console sales numbers above all else. They’re already selling the Portal as a second “console” to their existing users. The slightly upgraded Pro will be the third console sold to (mostly) the same users.

I don’t think they’ll sell it for a loss. But profit margin will be slim, while also not increasing their userbase or software revenue.