If you’ll indulge me with a question in response, why do you care if the game you play on your Xbox is on another console or if another OS is available on your Xbox?
Not Mort but because I spend $1400 on an Xbox and PS5 when I could have “only” spent $600 and there is no reciprocity. How do Xbox owners win here?
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My thinking is if they are not subsidising the next box and it’s $100 - $200 more expensive then the PS6, they’ll probably sell less than 20 million of those which would make console exclusive stuff a really hard sell for MS higher ups.
Because I think the multiplatform strategy will lead to the end of Xbox consoles. I very much prefer to play on Xbox.
The smaller the console becomes the easier it becomes for some data driven descision to end it to be taken.
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Your input is much appreciated! Very cool to see you posting here. XboxEra is by far the best Xbox community in my opinion.
There indeed hasn’t been much of an impact, and as much as some people on Twitter always go “see, this is what happens now that Xbox is multiplatform” when a smaller dev has decided to skip Xbox (which could be for any kind of reason) most games do still come to Xbox, if this doesn’t really change, it’s all fine. It’s probably super hard to tell, but what do you expect in regards to that?
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Thanks for the response Jez. Microsoft isn’t giving up in general but console wise which is what I care about the most since it’s how I play the games, it just seems like they don’t care at all anymore about the console. Like, whatever it sells and does, they’re fine with and that baffles me because if you’re selling a product, I would think that the goal is to have your product be seen as the best which in turn is going to make you money, revenue and profit as opposed to it just being “there”.
I do have a follow up question for clarity - like you mentioned, Nadella said that the console engagement increased. Does this mean that those who already own an Xbox Series X/S/Xbox One console are playing it more? Or is this gaining new consumers and users via buying the console? Thanks.
As a $3T dollar company, why couldn’t they do BOTH? I’m sorry. We’re not talking about a Sony or Nintendo here with a market cap of $100B or whatever it is. We’re talking about a company that’s worth $3T. I just don’t see how they couldn’t compete, move beyond the console which they were doing already for years and still heavily compete in the console space against Sony and Nintendo.
I agree with this but when you start a new generation, outside of the truly loyal hardcore, you can get people to jump. I have jumped main platforms three generations in a row. Went from PS/PS2 to 360 to PS4 to Series X. I mean, it can happen and it can be done.
That’s quite the presumption, in my opinion, but I can’t refute speculation. Ultimately, I see the industry moving in a more open direction. As long as Microsoft sells Windows, I think there will always be a home console alternative (whether MS makes it or not - see the portable gaming market).
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Why does someone else getting something you already have equal losing? Ultimately, I think we see things differently but this is a question that constantly frustrates me, across many topics (so nothing personal here lol).
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This is my issue as well. I don’t care if Microsoft says they will always have a console because they’ve lied repeatedly and let’s be honest, if their console sales are declining now and stay that way until Fall 2026, I firmly believe that their next console would be their last because if they have a Wii U moment, im sorry but I don’t believe for a second that Microsoft wouldn’t just end making consoles because what would be the monetary gain in doing so when such a small percentage of consumers actually care to own one?
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It’s tat for tat. Reciprocity. It’s an opportunity cost. You could have had both, but only got one.
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When you have industry analysts saying that user habits have changed beyond a console ‘closed ecosystem’ paradigm, we need to stop making assumptions and be open to the new info that challenges that paradigm.
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I’m not convinced that in that fabled pool of 3 billion gamers, the decisive factor for success is releasing games on PlayStation.
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This. Both Hi Fi and Pentiment bombed on PlayStation. Grounded doesn’t appear to be doing anything so it’s just one game - Sea of Thieves. And with 40m players BEFORE PlayStation, I don’t see the logic outside of money in doing this whatsoever.
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And those franchises are now dead. Sea of Thieves also needs more sales to keep the current level of support. If it doesn’t get them it has to crank up the MT or die.
but I guess that’s what you want?
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Seems that others would rather burn down what we have or will have just so others don’t get something… and that just seems gross and a little childish (especially when… looks around at the world), but that’s my opinion.
For me, all that matters is the games and that the people making them have livelihoods, the rest is just noise.
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I love how so many people here tend to forget that Microsoft is literally worth $3T dollars but yet, they need more sales to keep their games alive. Come on man. They can do anything they want, they just have to WANT to do it. That’s literally it.
Also, I don’t see how 40m players before PlayStation somehow isn’t enough. SMH.
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Well, they never said ‘it was the decisive factor for success’, those are just your assumptions.
In the pool of a billion+ gamers, how much is the console share? At best there are 150-200 million gamers (and based on data, continuing to shrink), considering the fact that a big portion of these gamers are multi-homers. That is not nothing per se, but it shows that console gamers are phasing (not dying) out to different sectors.
Which is why what Xbox is rumoured to be doing with their next hardware sounds exciting. If they are able to side load the Steam app, then you pretty much have access to all games that may/may not have skipped Xbox (including PS games lol). Also, if they are essentially making a console-like PC, that could possibly mean less friction for devs (i.e. focus on one version) and there is no more a PC and console version to work on simultaneously.
I would not say Grounded is dead at all, but doing as good as SoT? Definitely not.
They are a publicly traded company, not a charity. If something is losing money with no prospects to make money, they legally have to stop it. It’s called fiduciary duty, and can literally end with people going to jail.
40M players doesn’t mean sales, and continued dev and servers both cost money. If the game is not taking in money, those have to go.
Also, people don’t seem to think about this angle: If MS has all these live-service games thriving on PS, then it makes it harder for Sony’s own 1P live-service games to thrive because they have more games to compete with to drive user engagement than before and it was already hard as it is.
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