No different from Capcom or Rockstar. Hack equal crime.
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Clearly emotions are running high over at Insomniac (& among their fans, including in the gaming media) because this entire angle they’ve latched onto whereby they’re repeating it was a “crime, not a leak”… is leading absolutely nowhere.
It doesn’t achieve what they think it’ll achieve (which let’s face it is the silencing of the discussion about the data & its contents). It’s simply too late for that.
They’d be better off simply warning their fans A/beware spoilers & B/remind everyone of the fact Wolverine is a very early build & the final product will be much different. Voilà.
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It’s still a crime thus calling it a crime shouldn’t really bother you or anyone else.
Will it do anything to change the discourse ? Of course not. There’s a segment of the gaming community that literally care about leaks more than games itself lol.
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Just has that lowkey defense on KFG. Not the statement, but from the individual despite the position. Regardless, it is unfortunate.
He’s trying to highlight that this was an organized and targeted criminal act, as opposed to something more innocent like, for example, a Ubisoft employee accidentally leaving their laptop open in view of passersby.
Which is all fine and good. That’s what happened. But… IF the argument is that what makes leaks bad is the damage they do to developers’ work and plans, then it makes no difference whether the source of the leak is a criminal act or a simple mistake or whatever else.
People just want to have their cake and eat it too, make a show about how their priority is protecting the feelings of devs, but they also want to be able to have fun discussing leaks so they have to try and come up with some bogus standard about which leaks are morally okay and which are morally not okay.
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Yes, well, on a personal note I’m quite sensitive on issue of emotional manipulation. Aka something which is evidently occurring with regards to the Insomniac situation.
People are being somewhat encouraged into an outpouring of grief for the “devs” at Insomniac, i.e. something which deflects from a few issues which really should be a part of the conversation. Namely security in such companies must be tight & someone, somewhere, evidently made a huge, huge mistake. A bit like leaving an unlocked luxury car with the key in the ignition parked in a bad area. Also, the real victim of the leak was the company. All the work done by the devs belongs to the company they work for, not them. It’s not ‘their’ work. It belongs to Sony.
The personal data issue is the only real area where the devs are personally affected & have real grounds for complaint. Although that grievance should be directed at whomever handles their security.
This is the real world. Hackers are part of the landscape. No point crying about that, i.e. it’s high seas piracy out there on the internet & it’s brutal. It’s up to the billion dollar corporations to make sure corporate hacks & leaks like this don’t happen.
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Technically they’re all crimes.
Even leaks that originated from internal employees telling things to outside people is a crime too, its breaking the employement agreement and misappropriation of company property.
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I think this is a major reach. If this was a random gaming journalist then I’d get your point because you shouldn’t pick and choose what you call a leak vs a crime but it’s not, it’s an employee of Insomniac who got impacted by this. If he prefers calling it a crime vs a leak then he’s got all the right to do so.
It’s up to the reader on whether they want to take offence to it or not.
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I don’t think so. There’s a concerted effort on various forums (including other era) & in some media circles to stifle the conversation about the leaks. It’s happening & no, I’m not reaching.
Jason Schreier meanwhile has posted an interesting article which does touch on some of the more pertinent aspects of the leak, such as Sony’s own plans regarding staff layoffs at Insomniac:
It’s a big story & the devs are merely one component of it. But it’s not just about them, it’s about Sony & their business strategy. That’s the interesting part (& the financials of how the gaming market works).
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But I’m not talking about forums, influencers or gaming media. I’m specifically talking about the employees that got impacted by this.
I just don’t think it’s really fair to police what they say just because you’re so focused on the console war aspect of it. Maybe that’s just me being naive, but i just don’t think the employees using the word crime instead of leak is them being emotionally manipulative.
Now if we’re talking about random ass Sony fans on resetera or Greg Miller’s of the world, then sure, I’d probably be in agreement with you lol.
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I call it the Sony Propaganda Network operating as intended…
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Tom was harrased by members of the forum even after his ban, literal name calling of the most direct kind. Hope this shows further insight into the concept that industry insiders should stay away from that god awful Sony forum pretending to be a general gaming forum.
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Yep pretty interesting as if Sony was really far along with a Pro model one of their internal Devs like Insomniac should be preparing for it. If it is real it really should be somewhere in the leaked docs
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That IS interesting. You would think sony’s top producer would have some info on it.
I was also disappointed the xbox leaks didn’t seem to mention a handheld xbox.
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Maybe it’s just me but while I believe Wolverine will be solid, I kind of wish the gameplay would be like their DMC, Hi-Fi Rush, or basically loose third person action rather fixed on over the shoulder. GoW was theirs until it decided to change, which is fine, but someone should fill in that void.
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Sony specfically told Barlog they wouldnt greenlight another gow action game.
A cesspool.
A real shame actual devs want to hang out there. Imagine if they came here instead.
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Solid is the definition for most of the template Sony games.
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Shpeshal Nick said it best… https://x.com/Shpeshal_Nick/status/1738292582017638874?s=20 It’s pretty much undeniable at this point.
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I thought it was hilarious. The TOS isn’t about enforcing a standard of behaviour for the site. It’s about keeping the community of overly engaged socially inept, often political extremists and generally unwell complacent and clicking. Which if they are challenged they stop doing, or pitch a fit and break the whole site.
It’s why they didn’t care when huge chunks of every other gaming community left. It’s not a gaming forum. It’s harvesting and selling engagement from a bunch of unwell people who own a specific console.
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