OLED or QLED For next gen

[Andodalf]

OLED is indisputably the best tech for gaming, but that doesn’t mean other tech can’t have a role. No other tech can maintain amazing black levels in a low enough latency

[Zappy5]

@Resist

i support mini-led. yeah, i know it’s not as good as oled for hdr, but i believe all forms of screen tech should be pushed to their limits and sony is at the forefront with mini-led. you can get great results from them imo.

I don’t because it’s not as good. We finally have amazing TV tech that is affordable, scalable and has lots of room for growth. The downsides are minimal and the more that companies push it the more costs will come down. OLED should be pushed as the defacto screen tech imo. I don’t want the plasma debacle again because Sony and Samsung want to be greedy.

[Anecronomicon]

@Staffy

Yep, I agree with you.

I had an Samsung S95B which got incredibly bright, and at first it’s fantastic but you get used to it very quickly. I’ve also had a Samsung QLED which got even brighter but it’s not what it’s cracked up to be. I have a Sony A95K now, gets plenty bright and it’s come to a point where I hope this set will do me fine for many years to come. There are zero issues with DSE, no banding, no other weird things. It’s kinda near flawless really.

Do you always game in a dark room or do you mix it up? I’m so used to always having the lights on, but that kinda defeats the full HDR effect, doesn’t it?

I either play in a dark room or I have a small wall light on. In any case brightness is never an issue or something I even think of. The TV’s max luminance is either set to 30 automatically in SDR content in filmmaker mode (like on Netflix) or 100 for HDR content. But considering the infinite contrast on an Oled, I don’t see the point in chasing higher peak brightness. It won’t make scenes look better.

Screen uniformity & color banding meanwhile is something I do notice. On my Oled I get this in scenes where there’s either near black darkness (in a game like Amnesia the Bunker I notice near black uniformity issues) & in scenes with fog like in Elden Ring where there’s noticeable color banding in the sky, although 120hz mode mitigates this effect.

[Zappy5]

@Anecronomicon

… I either play in a dark room or I have a small wall light on. In any case brightness is never an issue or something I even think of. The TV’s max luminance is either set to 30 automatically in SDR content in filmmaker mode (like on Netflix) or 100 for HDR content. But considering the infinite contrast on an Oled, I don’t see the point in chasing higher peak brightness. It won’t make scenes look better. Screen uniformity & color banding meanwhile is something I do notice. On my Oled I get this in scenes where there’s either near black darkness (in a game like Amnesia the Bunker I notice near black uniformity issues) & in scenes with fog like in Elden Ring where there’s noticeable color banding in the sky, although 120hz mode mitigates this effect.

The only reason to chase higher brightness is to make their TV’s stand out more in stores. There is no real discernable use for 4000 nits in the vast majority of home consumer use. Yes you can match the mastering standard of some films but so what? How will that help when as you say you are losing some contrast - even if its minimal the bottom line is it won’t offer a consumer a noticeably better end result.

[BRiT]

@Anecronomicon

Screen uniformity & color banding meanwhile is something I do notice. On my Oled I get this in scenes where there’s either near black darkness (in a game like Amnesia the Bunker I notice near black uniformity issues) & in scenes with fog like in Elden Ring where there’s noticeable color banding in the sky, although 120hz mode mitigates this effect.

I hope for LG Oleds to focus on that improvement. Screen uniformity is one of the noticed improvements of the QD-Oleds displays.

[Resist]

@Zappy5

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I mean we definitely need someone pushing mini-led screen tech not necessarily for tvs but for monitors as well which are used for productivity and media consumption. And since Sony makes monitors, hopefully this will have an effect their as well.

[Staffy]

@BRiT

I hope for LG Oleds to focus on that improvement. Screen uniformity is one of the noticed improvements of the QD-Oleds displays.

Absolutely. As much as I despise the Samsung S95B after all the issues and that company being untrustworthy with firmware updates, the screen uniformity was amazing. On my Sony A95K too, when I display those 100% color backgrounds like blue, grey, white, yellow etc it is indeed 100% that colour, no banding, no DSE. Lovely.

@Anecronomicon

… I either play in a dark room or I have a small wall light on. In any case brightness is never an issue or something I even think of. The TV’s max luminance is either set to 30 automatically in SDR content in filmmaker mode (like on Netflix) or 100 for HDR content. But considering the infinite contrast on an Oled, I don’t see the point in chasing higher peak brightness. It won’t make scenes look better. Screen uniformity & color banding meanwhile is something I do notice. On my Oled I get this in scenes where there’s either near black darkness (in a game like Amnesia the Bunker I notice near black uniformity issues) & in scenes with fog like in Elden Ring where there’s noticeable color banding in the sky, although 120hz mode mitigates this effect.

Yeah, that kind of stuff sucks and I’ve seen that with pretty much any TV, any tech, didn’t matter if it was QLED or OLED etc. Although I’ve never owned a mini led, so no idea about that. I believe smooth gradation on Sony TVs can make it better, but it comes with its downsides too. On the C9 I had lots of very visible and ugly color banding in the sky in GTA 5. Wonder if we’re ever truly gonna get rid of it.

Also, new video.

Samsung Unleash Transparent Micro LED & Its First 42-inch OLED TV

[SilentJay76]

@Zappy5

Sony are just stupid. Nobody needs 4000 nits. It’s completely pointless right now.

Correction - consumers are stupid. Which is why Sony will happily sell them TVs with 4000 nits.

[Revraiser (Trevor-Revraiser)]

Got my Samsung QLED 75 Q70C the other day for sub $1800 and i couldnt be happier.

[Staffy]

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[Kals_Els]

@Staffy

I have to wonder, is Digital Foundry a good source for OLED tech?

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@Kals_Els

I have to wonder, is Digital Foundry a good source for OLED tech?

I would do a FTFY about that DF assessment… but that might get me in trouble

[Kals_Els]

@Knottian

I would do a FTFY about that DF assessment… but that might get me in trouble

I mostly ask because I also have doubts about their analysis of HDR. After Alex did a video comparing DLSS support on Starfield, between official and the mod. He said something about the opening having a yellow filter with the official support of HDR and how he thought the mod that removed the original filter looked better because it didn’t have it.

But on my recent character I looked around the elevator and noticed the lights on the back are yellow.

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@Kals_Els

I mostly ask because I also have doubts about their analysis of HDR. After Alex did a video comparing DLSS support on Starfield, between official and the mod. He said something about the opening having a yellow filter with the official support of HDR and how he thought the mod that removed the original filter looked better because it didn’t have it.

But on my recent character I looked around the elevator and noticed the lights on the back are yellow.

That was kinda my point

When actual devs contradict their “assessment”, it should be a red flag that everything be taken with a grain of salt… they often make subjective preferences out to be objective fact, that’s all I’ll say without further sugar-coating.

[10k]

OLED is the superior panel for gaming and movies. If you want the “true” blacks and wider color gamut, you go with OLED. But QLED is definitely more affordable. Go with whatever price range you are most comfortable with. Just make sure it has Dolby Vision and VRR.