IF the pandemic didn’t happen. I don’t care what anyone says. Switch pro would have come out by now.
Gold had well over 50 million in the late 360 era. MS don’t care about gold numbers anymore.
Also the notion that Sony users will flock to Spartacus is a bit premature.
PSNow has barely 4 million subs with 3x more consoles sold than Xbox.
People aren’t going to pay for Spartacus if they’re charging 16 bucks for demos and games they already own.
Nintendo are in a unique position where they can charge you for eternity and their fanboys will eat it up. Sony and MS can’t do that.
You sure about Sony?
Spartacus will have more subs right out of the gate because all ps plus subs will be turn into tier 1 spartacus subs so it will start with 48+
What Sony has to do is to convince a lot of those people to move to tier 2 and 3. We know that a lot of thosr now subs are from PC since ( I dont have evidence but bear with me!) The most played game in that service is Bloodborne (someone correct me if I’m wrong) so most likely a lot of those now pc players wont move to spartacus second tier.
PD: sorry for the amount of “subs” in this post 
PD 2: what do you think of this armchar analysis? :px2
We really shouldn’t be counting tier 1 in the comparisons. The only people that will do that is Sony (for marketing) and fanboys on the internet trying to fight subscription wars.
Yeah I wanted to made that point.
The numbers comparisson will be between tier 2-3 and gamepass and as I said, most of tier 2 users are likely pc gamer who wont transition to this service.
Now SONY could convince some hardcore users but I think it wont be enough to top gamepass numbers in the coming years.
Yeah I’m pretty sure because PSnow flopped despite being out years before Gamepass. And PSnow has a much bigger library than Gamepass with tons of old PS2 and PS3 games.
The biggest thing for Spartacus will be Crunchyroll and Music subs. IS it going to be built in? That will help.
If the highest tier of this thing has Crunchyroll built in and some form of a Music app…that will be enticing.
I agree with you. All im saying is that I wouldn’t be surprised to see Sony tout and market it as the “leader” when it comes to a gaming subscription.
Of course they will. And their fanboys will obviously fuel the narrative.
We’ll have to see what the service offers though. 16 bucks for a service with NO Pc equivalent(or an absolute shit one like PSnow) and no day 1 new games AAA games is a hard sell
Unless we get a huge ass library from PS1 PS2 PSP and Vita in Native form.
Agree completely. Not expecting anyone from the service to be honest.
… There are two major flaws in combining PS+ and PS Now.
One additional hurdle will actually be the contracts that exist for PS Now. Games stay on PS Now for a long never ending period of time. PlayStation clearly got favorable contracts for the service. Any game making the transition will want a better offer. And some games like Bethesda games will skip the new PlayStation service for obvious reasons.
Not sure if I’m being naive or uninformed or something here… But isn’t it possible Sony would shy away from this line of argument in order to keep this as a potential antitrust weakness for Microsoft?
Meaning, if Sony leans into the subscription numbers in this way, Microsoft can then point to Sony’s own marketing and say to regulators, “See, even if you define ‘market’ as being gaming subscription services, we’re still not the market leader.”
And it’s in Sony’s best interest to keep Microsoft in the regulator crosshairs, because it might help make Microsoft be a bit more acquisition shy.
Sorry, don’t mean to turn this into another acquisitions thread, but sometimes these things bleed into each other.
This is a good thought process but since Sony isn’t the company buying massive publishers, even if they say PS+ is the number one subscription service, I don’t think it would affect anything because compared to acquiring Activision Blizzard for about $70B, it’s basically well, nothing. lol.
We’ll find out soon enough though.
Added another year to my sub…just in case.
I’m guessing they’re doing a new cloud infrastructure. No Idea why they don’t pay google for theirs as its great.
You’ll have to pay extra for the highest tier anyway. I think Sony will screw people over when it comes to conversion
Maybe. I won’t end up worse off than I am currently so there’s no harm in it.
Sounds like you directly challenged them… 