Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard Discussion Thread |OT3| - Sony bends the knee!

[lunanto]

Which games do you think will drop in the first batch?

[Sparda3g]

@saintsflow20

18 years ago today, I got an OG Xbox for my 7th birthday, and joined the Xbox family. Pretty funny day for me for them to tweet that lol.

Happy Birthday!

[Searsy82]

@Zappy5

…t line frequently. They can only do that close ahead of the CMA final order IF the CMA life their interim order. And as Florian has explained doing so would be a one in a million type unprecedented step and they’d have to also outline why they are doing this and that they will not ever do it again. It’s probably unlikely. As Florian has also explained there is no path for the FTC in the window to do anything. MS would only close over the CMA now if they felt there was no way through and no way to claim ‘we’ve worked with all regulators’ type thing. I don’t think it’s impossible they are still trying to negotiate with the CMA to allow closure next week it’s probably something they’d love to do. But as Florian also says whilst the CMA could do something unprecedented it doesn’t mean they will.

Do you have any links to the florian stuff? I deleted my twitter account the day musk bought it and wont make another one, now I cant look at twitter for the most part.

I scrolled back a few hundred posts just in case I missed it in here. Saw a few florian tweets, but none addressing that specifically.

[pg2g]

@Searsy82

…omehow, magically in the last 12 hours or so the temperature in the room has shifted from “this is done, Monday or Tuesday is it” to “well, MS will now just take their sweet time getting this thing closed” The FTC, unless they simply drop the case (which is entirely the sensible thing to do at this point, because, yes, their case is garbage), can still pursue breaking up the deal. Im not going to argue that I think the deal will fail, I agree that it isn’t 50/50 at this point. Pursuing it further would just be a giant waste of time. But I do think that delaying closure goes counter to everything you just did the past two weeks, because the ALJ item is still on the table for now. Now you go into those proceedings having been disingenuous about the important of the initial termination date.

There isn’t a ton that can be done about dates when numerous parties and processes are involved. You obviously push to meet your own, but there is no guarantee that everything se falls in line.

They’ll close on time if they can and they’ll delay if they need to. I dont think there’s much more to it than that.

[Searsy82]

@pg2g

There isn’t a ton that can be done about dates when numerous parties and processes are involved. You obviously push to meet your own, but there is no guarantee that everything se falls in line.

They’ll close on time if they can and they’ll delay if they need to. I dont think there’s much more to it than that.

Thats fair.

[MasterChief]

@pg2g

There isn’t a ton that can be done about dates when numerous parties and processes are involved. You obviously push to meet your own, but there is no guarantee that everything se falls in line.

They’ll close on time if they can and they’ll delay if they need to. I dont think there’s much more to it than that.

I feel like trusting the CMA is a mistake, and I bet the FTC uses the opportunity to try and block again if the deadline is extended.

[AllianceOfficer]

@Zappy5

As Florian has also explained there is no path for the FTC in the window to do anything.

Thats simply not true unless the time is considerably less than the 6 weeks being tossed around. The extension would need to be limited to a maximum of 3 weeks in order for the FTC to be unable to further mess with the process.

The in house trial and the appeal are both within the discussed 6 week time frame.

[pg2g]

@MasterChief

I feel like trusting the CMA is a mistake, and I bet the FTC uses the opportunity to try and block again if the deadline is extended.

Honestly, I don’t even know why closing over the CMA even became such a popular narrative.

[biglo25]

Also the ALJ recommendation is just that a recommendation after the FTC changed it and with the FTC vs Axon Supreme Court decision even if they rule against it will now be able to be tried in a Federal Court system instead of the inhouse trial so if they want to keep losing they can go a head

[biglo25]

@MasterChief

I feel like trusting the CMA is a mistake, and I bet the FTC uses the opportunity to try and block again if the deadline is extended.

then MS wouldn’t have agreed to it if they didn’t find a way since it was a joint agreement to suspend it and they MS know more than we do

[Searsy82]

I mean, the best outcome at this point would be for the FTC to just drop it and none of this extra discourse will matter anymore. They have to know that they aren’t going to win long term and MS isn’t a company that you can hurt by drawing it out, they have the resources to take it the distance and not feel it at all.

[biglo25]

@pg2g

Honestly, I don’t even know why closing over the CMA even became such a popular narrative.

it was just seen as like the nuclear option to try to get the CMA to the table or to really do it as a last resort type thing

[McMasters (Marty McMasters)]

@saintsflow20

18 years ago today, I got an OG Xbox for my 7th birthday, and joined the Xbox family. Pretty funny day for me for them to tweet that lol.

Happy birthday.

[Rsebi]

Well ill take my L, i was sure about Saturday closing yet lo and behold

Still too many conflicting opinions

Foss and Hoeg believe the deal will close in a few days

Tom Warren believes they’ll extend few weeks

There is that UK attorney Luke Steele who says he doesn’t know but that its likely MS wouldn’t close over the CMA because it’d be operating in bad faith and MS would rather try to work something out

My opinion is that if it does still close before the 18th than MS and the CMA have come to an agreement or at least allow MS to close everywhere outside the UK while they work on a structural remedy in the UK

[MasterChief]

@Searsy82

I mean, the best outcome at this point would be for the FTC to just drop it and none of this extra discourse will matter anymore. They have to know that they aren’t going to win long term and MS isn’t a company that you can hurt by drawing it out, they have the resources to take it the distance and not feel it at all.

The FTC lacks common sense and I wouldn’t be surprised if they try more shenanigans before Microsoft and the CMA come to an agreement.

[Rsebi]

https://twitter.com/jamirblanco/status/1680016142428147713?t=MzbGQVKQDl74lFbj5USOaA&s=19

“Microsoft employee next week”

Interesting …

[Zappy5]

@AllianceOfficer

Thats simply not true unless the time is considerably less than the 6 weeks being tossed around. The extension would need to be limited to a maximum of 3 weeks in order for the FTC to be unable to further mess with the process.

The in house trial and the appeal are both within the discussed 6 week time frame.

The trial starts on August 2nd. It will take a while and then the decision is usually months away. Certainly won’t be in the 6 week window regardless.

[pg2g]

@Rsebi

https://twitter.com/jamirblanco/status/1680016142428147713?t=MzbGQVKQDl74lFbj5USOaA&s=19

“Microsoft employee next week”

Interesting …

They probably reading the same stuff online we are lol

[Zappy5]

@Rsebi

Well ill take my L, i was sure about Saturday closing yet lo and behold

Still too many conflicting opinions

Foss and Hoeg believe the deal will close in a few days

Tom Warren believes they’ll extend few weeks

There is that UK attorney Luke Steele who says he doesn’t know but that its likely MS wouldn’t close over the CMA because it’d be operating in bad faith and MS would rather try to work something out

My opinion is that if it does still close before the 18th than MS and the CMA have come to an agreement or at least allow MS to close everywhere outside the UK while they work on a structural remedy in the UK

I don’t think it’s even possible from a legal or structural standpoint to close ‘everywhere but the U.K.’ I mean maybe it is but surely you’d have to give all ABK UK and trading operations that run through the U.K. separate legal and trading status establish a board and a governance structure etc….which is different to exciting subsidiaries that are not necessarily holding all UK ABK assets and aren’t individual trading entities.

And doing that would take a not inconsiderable amount of time and effort. And how can you stop for example that UK independent ABK being bought by someone else in the meantime?

[Staffy]

@Rsebi

Well ill take my L, i was sure about Saturday closing yet lo and behold

Still too many conflicting opinions

Foss and Hoeg believe the deal will close in a few days

Tom Warren believes they’ll extend few weeks

There is that UK attorney Luke Steele who says he doesn’t know but that its likely MS wouldn’t close over the CMA because it’d be operating in bad faith and MS would rather try to work something out

My opinion is that if it does still close before the 18th than MS and the CMA have come to an agreement or at least allow MS to close everywhere outside the UK while they work on a structural remedy in the UK

That would be best, because like others here said, who’s to say FTC won’t try some bullshit again? This shit just needs to get over with already, goddamn. The Zenimax acquisition surely went smoother, I mean understandable, but enough already.