It’s MS summary. That’s all we have.
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I actually was under the impression that it was CATs summary of Microsofts case. This makes more sense.
Ms is complaining. We do not even know if those complains are valid, or if they are relevant to the CAT juridiction.
CAT could say “you are totally right, but we do not the judge the contents of the CMA answer, only its legal aspects”.
Microsoft appealed based on all four aspects that CAT reviews cases on:
- Legality
- Procedural compliance and procedural fairness
- Irrationality
- Proportionality
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I love the idea that MS hired some of the best and most expensive lawyers in the world who deal directly with the subject matter of the CMA and UK mergers, and they would somehow not know how to frame an appeal.
This thread truly is the gift that keeps on giving. 
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“The experts are WRONG!” Some guy that watches too much YouTube and don’t go outside
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Lord have mercy. PLEASE, never refer anything from GaF! That place is a cesspool of epic proportions and completely untrustworthy. We can do MUCH better.
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Haven’t seen anyone claim that here. Saw a journalist write it on Twitter……was hilarious. They’ve clearly brought the big hitters in for this and are going for it.
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Look upwards a few comments.
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I’m not convinced that is anything other than saying ‘we don’t know without the details whether these grounds have validity within CAT’ and that’s fair enough we don’t.
Most grounds that are appealed on are effectively denied for that very reason.
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I dont particularly care about innovation in the space of advertising, but I thought this was interesting. Meta is basically ceasing to use data that it has and has obtained through agreements from users to better tailor advertising. They are doing this in hopes of avoiding future similar issues with the CMA as they ran into with Giphy.
While I do not care about innovating in the ad space, I do care about discouraging innovation and investment into innovation. That is effectively what the CMA has done in this scenario.
It is also one of several possible outcomes of the CMA going after cloud. Cloud gaming could similarily be an area they head away from investment in.
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They are run by massive sony fanboys who are very, very sensitive. They’re going to kill the site for real over the next few years by banning anyone who isn’t a massive fanboy
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You seem to be confusing innovation and investment with shady business practices. This is exactly what the CMA (and EU it’s a joint effort) should be doing. Protecting competition and the consumer.
This won’t reduce innovation or investment and the idea that Meta shamelessly using user data on its platform to gain advantage over other marketplace advertisers is hardly innovation. It’s the opposite.
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Lawyers are always right until they are wrong, and this has nothing to do with how much they cost. Nobody said that the MS appeal is not correctly written, just that the lawyers do the max they can within the boundaries they have to exercise and the materials they need to defend.
I agree, but advisement falls under that category FIRST. If its not worth persuing or undertaking they are the first to advise of that fact for their client. These people do not take cases and say “I will do my best” (they are not public defenders) they only do so if they see a vector to move forward.
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They also don’t turn away huge sums of money….
They get money for advising. That isnt free (far from it).
I feel like people are getting their legal knowledge from TV on here (not corporate law)
Yes. But whilst you are correct that their assessment of chances will be offered that assessment is against the backdrop of essentially a lucrative contract for their firm if MS continues the action. It’s why whilst no doubt the advice will be good it’s always a little tainted given it’s also their business.
Doubtful, that is a great way to burn a VERY large client (and potential lawsuits) unless MS is specifically forging ahead against their advisement.
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