Embracer Group has entered into an agreement to acquire Crystal Dynamics, Eidos-Montréal, Square Enix Montréal (~1,100 employees) and a catalogue of IPs including Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, etc (total up $300M)

Not sure about that. The price dropped pretty quick on guardians of the galaxy. I paid $25 a month after release for the digital version from Walmart. If I’m not mistaken it only sold about 1.5m in its first two months and the license must have cost a good amount

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And put what games on it? 360 Darksiders remasters?

Seriously. I know this lot were the old THQ nordic but cmon. Their games are at best above average bar a few

What was their last AAA GOTY caliber game from this Studio?

Well, once this deal closes the answer to that will be Guardians of the Galaxy. But before that, maybe Metro Exodus? Borderlands 3?

Not saying I think they could pull off a subscription service. Just pondering the question.

So games that have underdelivered. But yeah…highest rated games will be rise of tomb raider and guardians which theyve only just acquired.

They seem to release a shit ton of mediocre to decent games.

Looking at their portfolio…their best games are from the 360 era. Lol.

The Metro games are fantastic.

Metro 2033 Redux (PC) is currently sat at a 90 Metacritic.

If Embracer was to have a subscription service, it would only be of interest to me if the games were day one on it. If it’s a vault, no thanks.

In general, I really enjoyed a lot of Embracer’s games last generation. Metro Exodus, Darksiders III, Darksiders Genesis, Battle Chasers Nightwar and Remnant From the Ashes were all great 8+/10 games for me with only Biomutant being disappointing but even then, wouldn’t be against a sequel.

With Crystal Dynamics/Eidos Montreal, im really hyped and looking forward to seeing what games Embracer gives me this generation. I know there’s Metro 4 with a fully voiced protagonist!!!, Darksiders IV seems like a given, of course, the next Tomb Raider game and so much more!!! Oh man, let’s go baby!!!

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That’s only because you sub and unsub on a per-game basis :stuck_out_tongue: I don’t think they have the content to sustain a subscription service that people actual keep long term.

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Depends on the price. If its like EA Play Vault where its $30 a year, then its far easier to do that than on and off months.

I don’t see Embracer doing that. They dont have the release cadence of EA annual titles to pull off the inexpensive subscription. So every game Embracer has they’d want to sell for longer than 6 or 12 months before going into a $30 buffet.

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Hehehe. Yep. I do that with every game. Next up should be A Plague Tale Requiem. I agree with you in regards to Embracer not having enough content to keep people subscribed for the long term.

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I’ve been thinking more about this deal and I think it’s probably the best thing Microsoft could hope for. Embracer as a company is pretty hands off with their studios and likes to partner with platform holders for games (KOTOR/Sony) and have even stated they want to deepen ties with a platform holder.

Furthermore, Embracer wants to continue the Perfect Dark arrangement with Microsoft and would probably be even open to Microsoft funding the next Tomb Raider and making it exclusive to their ecosystem. Crystal Dynamics is a low profit studio and Embracer would likely be open to Xbox offsetting the risk of developing a big budget game which Embracer isn’t even known for.

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So 360 era games…As I own the first one(great game) and redux is the first 2 which both came to 360.

Anyway my point still stands. For a company with more studios than Sony and MS(well before the activision merger) they don’t really have those elite 10m+ selling games even like a Ubisoft do.

Whats EG’s Assassins Creed?

Not sure why they ditched Darksiders. Darksiders was about 50m Budget away from being one of the best proper modern M rated Zelda games out there. Good game but feel short in some areas.

Embracer Group’s releases aren’t meant to be 10m+ sellers. If they get one or two here and there, great but most of their games aren’t going to hit that mark.

They didn’t ditch Darksiders. Darksiders III released in November 2018 and it’s a great game in my opinion. I am expecting Darksiders IV at some point this generation especially since they acquired Gunfire Games a while back who developed Darksiders III.

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To each their own. Felt DS3 was very average. Again…its like they make a lot of lower budget AA games.

Make fewer games but higher quality. A Darksiders with the budget of an Ubisoft game would be neat.

Well, Embracer Group is an AA publisher. Sure, they’ll have some AAA titles but they’re mainly and mostly an AA publisher. They gave me some great games last generation. Metro Exodus, Battle Chasers Nightwar, Darksiders Genesis, Darksiders III and Remnant From the Ashes.

Back to Darksiders, I don’t think it needs a Ubisoft budget. Plus, it’s a linear/wide linear game. I definitely don’t want Darksiders IV being an open world game. Darksiders III had some issues but I enjoyed it much more than the first two games in the franchise, especially Darksiders 2 as I didn’t like it being open world.

We’ll see what they do this generation.

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Fair enough I prefer Ubisoft too.

I suspect there biggest seller is Borderlands (3 sold more than 15m).

Valheim is probably there closest thing to Assassin’s Creed in style (sold more than 10m) although it’s more of a survival.

I suspect the KOTOR remake to be huge.

Thats not their business model. And Embracer has way better profit margins than Sony for the last 5 years. So maybe they know what they are doing and don’t need to risk 100 million $ game budgets?

Was going to mention this. Really, Embracer is the return of the successful mid-tier publisher, and frankly we should all be happy they’ve taken a chance on A to AAA devs the way they have. So long as they treat their studios well, I don’t see why having some upper-quality AA titles is a bad thing. Sure, they don’t all sell a ton but so long as they’re good experiences, who cares (I play games not sales - the old adage).

Personally, I’m excited to see what a better management structure allows Eidos and CD to achieve again. Plus, Saints Row looks like a proper return :slight_smile:

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Way too cheap. Would have been ideal to sell to Xbox, some of the IP could have thrived. Square aren’t a fan of the West and it shows sometimes quite clearly. Let’s hope it doesn’t bite them in the future. Then again their future is mobile. They are just prolonging the inevitable at this point.