Arkane is moving away from linear games. Do you like this?

[OneBadMutha]

@Fiendflag

There’s still time to tighten up the graphics.

Level 3 coming in hot!!!

[DARK-PARADISE]

@Friday

forcing them to make games based on “market trends”

What exactly is “market trends” about Prey or Deahtloop? What are you saying?! Didn’t you say Dishonored was their best selling game, so directly making things less like that is actually more risk and less “safe” on their part?? Redfall might have been inspired to be more mass market but we haven’t even played that to say.

Developers not making what you prefer doesn’t mean they’re not making what they want. It’s just… unhealthy to think like that, especially when they still make great games.

[TavishHill]

@Proven

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Arkane as two seperate studios still follow the same design philosophies. Every single game builds upon the last game, which is why Redfall is clearly the most open yet.

Redfall has likely nothing to do with this imho. It was greenlit back when Zenimax was desperate for the studio to land something financially successful. And that quote doesn’t speak to the point I made about their games never being linear design-wise.

Linear would be something akin to older Halo games or Uncharted, et al. Sandbox mechanic-driven games like Arkane’s bread and butter aren’t really those types of games and aren’t linear in that sense. She just is referring story progression being linear, but the term linear normally refers to something different.

[TavishHill]

@Friday

Nope , I dont like this . I thought that Zenimax was making Arkane move away from their immersive sim formula , forcing them to make games based on “market trends” . So when MS bought them , I was really happy because Arkane wont have to worry about sales anymore and will actually go back to their Dishonored formula ( even a lot of PS fans saw this as the only silver lining in the acquisition ) . So them still going away from their dishonored formula sucks .

And I cant even say " Its fine , Ill just find someone else that makes games like that " because no one does . Eidos-Montréal did but even they have moved away from it .

I expect each team to lean into the games it is finding success in. For Lyon, stuff similar to Deathloop makes sense as it has been a breakout hit for them critically speaking. For Harvey Smith and the Austin team, I bet after Redfall they go back to their bread and butter design-wise. I actually think Eidos Montreal might take another look at Deus Ex in the future too now that they have new ownership.

[DARK-PARADISE]

@TavishHill

Linear would be something akin to older Halo games or Uncharted, et al. Sandbox mechanic-driven games like Arkane’s bread and butter aren’t really those types of games and aren’t linear in that sense. She just is referring story progression being linear, but the term linear normally refers to something different.

I agree, Dishonored isn’t exactly linear, but more structured and predefined (story, objectives) missions each their own immersive sim sandbox.

[TavishHill]

@DARK-PARADISE

I agree, Dishonored isn’t exactly linear, but more structured and predefined (story, objectives) missions each their own immersive sim sandbox.

The industry needs more immersive sims. I wish gamers bought the damn things tho.

[ShinMegamiTenseiX]

As long as its not full blown Ubisoft open world I’m good.

[DARK-PARADISE]

@TavishHill

The industry needs more immersive sims. I wish gamers bought the damn things tho.

Do you mean the “Just make good games and they’ll sell” Gamers

[Resist]

Immersive sims aren’t really supposed to be very linear… Prey wasn’t linear(and neither is Redfall). Pretty sure they just mean they won’t be making “mission-based” games anymore.

[pg2g]

Well, they are making Shadowrun so why would we want linear

[peter42O]

@Staffy

Prey is said to be great? You immediately quit whatever you’re doing and install and play that game. It might be my favorite Arkane game, even though Dishonored 1 and 2 are excellent too.

Hahaha. Not for me bud. Just not my type of game.

[pg2g]

@Staffy

Prey is said to be great? You immediately quit whatever you’re doing and install and play that game. It might be my favorite Arkane game, even though Dishonored 1 and 2 are excellent too.

I really enjoy Prey but I also hate running out of ammo all the time and feeling weak lol

[Searsy82]

I will play whatever Arkane wants to make.

[AllianceOfficer]

Redfall looks like it’ll be Arkanes best game ever, so my hype levels are off the chart. Can’t wait for this game.