XboxEra Community Hangout |OT3| Setting Low Expectations

Without a doubt. In a vacuum (and I’m dead serious) it’s probably one of the best E3’s I’ve seen.

Sony always does.

I said it earlier, but Sony managed to sneak past $70 dollar games, cross-gen on two big titles and several delays on previously announced games from the PS5 reveal to now just because they always wait for Microsoft.

Microsoft got all the heat for cross-gen games, for delayed launch titles, etc.

I imagine that even if Microsoft E3’s is actually great (which Rand thinks it could be if presented right), Sony will just plow right through afterwards with another show, show GoW, FFXVI, FF Origin, and a few other things and everything will think Xbox E3 was bad.

They ALWAYS do this.

Been replaying dishonored (now with fps boost) recently…

Crazy what some people can do with the games combat mechanics.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vKyT19o-Nl8

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Damn, that’s awesome.

This really makes me realize I didn’t take all of the mechanics to full use, nowhere near as awesome and skilled as this person, holy cow.

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MS really did lose that sharp focus they had during the 360 days. Going into every E3, you knew you could expect a great show, with everything coming out over 18 months.

I think Sony played very dirty last year honestly, but I think to say this is to imply that every E3, and even this year’s games, Sony plans their presentations on the fly, and is waiting until Microsoft does what it does to finalize anything when that is very clearly not the case.

This shit is planned months in advance. If Sony does show GoW, FFXVI, FF Origin, it won’t be because of MS’s show it’ll be because that’s what they had been planning for months, and if people think that show is better than MS’s well, it is what it is.

This whole thing gets particularly ridiculous when people talk about the PS4, where people for some reason think Sony changed the price of their console in the hours between MS’s conference and theirs. Sony’s reasoning for going with a 399 price point had less to do with MS and more to do with how much of a debacle 599 was.

The rest was good. But 499 was a major fumble and cost them the game so to speak. It was the reason i didn’t buy a One in 2013 but only two years later.

Over the last 7-10 days, I re-watched every Microsoft E3 showcase between 2013 and 2020. E3 2018 was by far the best showcase in my opinion not only just in general but for me personally as it gave me 10 games that I completed or will be completing as they haven’t released yet. This is my record in terms of how many games a single showcase has given me.

E3 2013 and E3 2014 were great in general as well as for me but the damage was done and they just couldn’t rebound from it. E3 2015 was good but not great. E3 2016 was fine but the second worst E3 showcase for me after 2020 from Microsoft. E3 2017 in my opinion was overall between good and great. Better than most thought in my opinion. E3 2019 was great but couldn’t match the year before but still a great showcase. E3 2020 was the worst showcase at least for me. Barely any gameplay whatsoever and the one game they did show a lot of gameplay of was disappointing from a visual and technical standpoint.

So overall, based on for me personally -

  1. E3 2018
  2. E3 2013
  3. E3 2014
  4. E3 2019
  5. E3 2017
  6. E3 2015
  7. E3 2016
  8. E3 2020

Hoping that E3 2021 can at the very least beat out the bottom three for me and if somehow it can get in my personal top three, I will be very happy but I think E3 2022 will be the showcase that does this for me.

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lol… I always seem revert to low chaos runs. :smile:

Nowhere near as fun clearly as outright killing everyone.

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I don’t think Wolf III exists right now.

But the team will soon or already is fully on Indy, will Wolf 3 come after that? It sounds rather late for the wrap up of the story. And as per Pete Hines we know it was being worked on. Hmmm.

I’m sure of it.

I always tried Stealth too but couldn’t help myself sometimes, sometimes I just wanted to stab a fool. But man I wish i did it as gloriously as this person.

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We don’t have any proof.

Like I think Machine Games finished up Youngblood, then was a support studio on probably both Arkane Titles, then went to Indy.

Maybe they WERE working on Wolf III before Indy came along…

I just got this nagging feeling that i don’t think Wolf III exists because I swear we would have heard about it by now.

I mean we knew about Wolf II: TNC well before it’s E3 reveal.

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Machine Games wasn’t the lead on Youngblood. That was Arkane. If there’s no Wolfenstein III, then what have Machine Games been working on for the last almost four years? Unless Indiana Jones is years deep into development already which is highly unlikely.

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I just find it weird that nobody can 100% say that Wolf III exists.

Even the Grubbmesiter thinks it may not actually exist./

Which is weird.

You’re not wrong. I was wondering what they had been doing all that time after TNC, but you have a good point. They could have been a support studio. As for Youngblood, wasn’t that a different team than the TNC one?

The fact that we haven’t heard a thing from any of these insiders is telling though, sadly that’s true. I don’t recall anything really about it other than Pete Hines. And I don’t know for sure if he even said it was being worked on or simply that there would be a new one.

True but my thinking is if Indiana Jones is in fact in pre-production, what have they been doing the last almost four years? That’s why I believe Wolfenstein III is real and will be at E3 especially since it’s time to wrap it up in my opinion.

Support studio for Deathloop and Omen?

Helping out with F076 and Starfield?

I mean Coalition and Turn 10 helped out on Fable, it wouldn’t be the first time other studios helped out.

Support studio? Ugh. I hope that’s not true. That sounds like a demotion to me. Plus Arkane has two studios that are more than capable of completing a game.

I don’t see why the would help out with FO76 and Starfield. BGS sis more than capable of developing those games themselves.