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[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Boosted_Gear

xCloud is going to be everywhere, and it is running on Series X hardware soon, so a game developed for xCloud is developed for consoles too.

An Xcloud made games takes advantage of the servers and azure in a way Im sure a Series X console made isnt going to do.

[Boosted_Gear]

@Staffy

Then it should mean we can just play the game without needing Xcloud on the console?

Yes, since it shares the same hardware. It is not the same as with Google or Luna.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Boosted_Gear

Yes, since it shares the same hardware. It is not the same as with Google or Luna.

From the Warren article

Fundamentally, the games you can play on cloud services like Google Stadia, Amazon Luna, and Microsoft xCloud are not “ cloud-native.” They were designed to run on existing consoles and PCs, so the only benefits you generally get from the cloud are faster load times, no need to install or patch games, and above-average graphics. Every game you play on Microsoft’s xCloud runs on a single Xbox board in a server rack, so it’s not all that different from the experience of playing on an Xbox at home.

Realistically there is little difference in how the games currently run between Stadia, Luna and Xcloud and Having tried at least 2 of these the only real difference is that the Stadia quality is way better.

[Boosted_Gear]

@javycane

Read the article by Tom Warren.

I read it but it is not the same situation. Xcloud native games can also means games using extensively Cloud technology from the get go. Like IA powered by Cloud, or physics, or whatever else. MS made it so that developing for the Cloud means developing for consoles. It is an extension of the consoles.

[Senua]

@javycane

An Xcloud made games takes advantage of the servers and azure in a way Im sure a Series X console made isnt going to do.

We are confusing two things.

1. A xCloud port of a game that can be easily created from the console version and optimised for touchscreen.
2. A game like MFS which leverages Azure cloud game stack for AI/physics/asset streaming. Remember these do not run on xCloud server blades but on normal VMs.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

Im pretty sure an Xcloud game can be played via the xbox but I dont know if it will be a native app.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Senua

We are confusing two things.

1. A xCloud port of a game that can be easily created from the console version and optimised for touchscreen.
2. A game like MFS which leverages Azure cloud game stack for AI/physics/asset streaming. Remember these doesn’t run on xCloud server blades but on normal VMs.

Im sure the third option is

1. A Game made specifically for Cloud Options and only played on xbox via streaming.

[GoroMajima]

@Proven

Well yeah he’s really criticizing himself, Sony’s strategy is to spend money to block content off of other platforms… and yes I know Microsoft is doing the same thing in some regards but they’re taking these studios in house and financially supporting the entire studio, it’s nuanced.

Apart from Stalker which was 3 months. What other timed exclusives have MS done and when they do its 3 months or so(in recent times not 6 years ago). 3 Months is actually a fair deal.

1 year is absolute horseshit. Games like FF16 Deathloop/Ghostwire should never be 1 year. But thats Sony for you. Jim Ryan can go fuck himself.

I seriously doubt MS would every do 1 year timed deals. Theyre probably more interested in Gamepass deals at this point. Couldn’t care less if it comes to PS5 unless its their own studios.

[bigboy1173 (BB73)]

This to me reads like more Flight Sim type games. (playable offline, but needs cloud streaming for best experience)

On another note, anyone up to guess when trailers will release? I have a few guesses.

Redfall (Apparently summer 2022 - latest Aug): Gameplay/release date traler end of this year, launch trailer at E3 22

Avowed (Insiders suggest early 23, sice starfield takes late 22 spot): Vertical slice later this year, Story trailer at E3 22, Deeper dive trailer end of 22

Hellblade 2(starting vertical slice): Vertical slice at E3 22 (as i dont know if it will be complete this year), release date late 23

Anyone else got any gueses?

[Senua]

Now this cloud-native game is sounding really good. A game built ground up for running on the cloud. Since it’s not bounded by the hardware limitations of the existing console server blades, the possibilities are endless. The cloud hardware specifications can be limitless and infinitely scalable. But everything will depend on the end user experience and their adoption/retention.

[PsyDec]

@Senua

Now this cloud-native game is sounding really good. A game built ground up for running on the cloud. Since it’s not bounded by the hardware limitations of the existing console server blades, the possibilities are endless. The cloud hardware specifications can be limitless and infinitely scalable. But everything will depend on the end user experience and their adoption/retention.

Now where have I heard this before?

[Senua]

@PsyDec

Now where have I heard this before?

I get what you mean. But I’m not the one selling this idea.

[TheScarecrow101]

@ProgStopper

Just got back from the office to eat lunch and check XboxERA.

Guess I missed some stuff today.

Good thing I haven’t had lunch yet…

Cause it looks like I’m eating Crow for lunch.

Hey, you will do no such thing. I do not deserve such a fate… or buy me a drink first.

[Thebaconlife]

@Senua

Now this cloud-native game is sounding really good. A game built ground up for running on the cloud. Since it’s not bounded by the hardware limitations of the existing console server blades, the possibilities are endless. The cloud hardware specifications can be limitless and infinitely scalable. But everything will depend on the end user experience and their adoption/retention.

If Kojima is building a cloud based gam e wouldn’t it be able to work offline since all of Xcloud is going to be series X blades soon?

[enski (Emil)]

@Deadwing88

XCloud exclusives shouldn’t be a thing.

I hope this isn’t a direction they’re going down.

THIS.

I don’t want to see that kind of exclusivity at Xbox for at least next 10 years.

[Staffy]

@enski

THIS.

I don’t want to see that kind of exclusivity at Xbox for at least next 10 years.

I honestly cannot see that happening at all, especially if one of the first games is a Kojima title. Internet for still many people isn’t ideal and fast enough for streaming. I prefer a stable game, looking and performing the best it can be. Streaming isn’t there yet .

[enski (Emil)]

@Staffy

I honestly cannot see that happening at all, especially if one of the first games is a Kojima title. Internet for still many people isn’t ideal and fast enough for streaming. I prefer a stable game, looking and performing the best it can be. Streaming isn’t there yet .

Lot of people would make then a huge shitstorm for Microsoft if that game wouldn’t be even at least available digitally.

[Visceron]

@Senua

Now this cloud-native game is sounding really good. A game built ground up for running on the cloud. Since it’s not bounded by the hardware limitations of the existing console server blades, the possibilities are endless. The cloud hardware specifications can be limitless and infinitely scalable. But everything will depend on the end user experience and their adoption/retention.

Kojima=Crackdown 4 confirmed.

[pg2g]

I would be happy to see what someone like Kojima could come up with that is only possible running on the cloud. We aren’t game designers, so lets see what a creative can do.

[LoveTheGaben (Gaben)]

@pg2g

I would be happy to see what someone like Kojima could come up with that is only possible running on the cloud. We aren’t game designers, so lets see what a creative can do.

Didn’t the multiplayer integration in Death Stranding use the cloud? I remember Kojima talking about that being a unique feature about the game