Xbox Game Studios |OT4| This is for Studio talk. Studios. It's the Studios OT. Studio talk here (Part 1)

[Deadwing88]

@Hindle

Never said Indy was 2028. It will be 2027. I think this year people will finally see the full reality of the situation when even games that are well into dev see delays

I mean, for example, Grubb has suggested the IO Interactive RPG, starting from the ground up with no lore, will release in 2025…

So you’re expecting Indiana Jones to have a longer development time than that.

[mrbobman15 (Giorgio)]

If Turn 10 is already game testing Forza Motorsport with the public doesn’t that mean the chances of getting it this year are high?

Forza Motorsport 7 released almost 4 years ago

[pg2g]

@mrbobman15

If Turn 10 is already game testing Forza Motorsport with the public doesn’t that mean the chances of getting it this year are high?

Forza Motorsport 7 released almost 4 years ago

It’d be higher if every insider wasnt suggesting Forza Horizon 5 this year. I really doubt we get both in one year.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@pg2g

It’d be higher if every insider wasnt suggesting Forza Horizon 5 this year. I really doubt we get both in one year.

[anon15396042]

@Roronoa_Zoro90

As I was saying to , you should take into account the annoucement dates (2021->2027 would be insane), it’s a very important thing, much more than after the fact interviews about dev time cycles and origin stories of the project.

I completely disagree that the date of announcement is more important than actual previous dev time cycles & stories of things that have actually happened before.

You can’t say with absolute certainty “it was announced on this date & so will definitely be out by this date, ignore any other examples of other things taking longer, wrap it up boys we’re done”

Just completely disagree with that. We don’t know. The game will be out when it’s out. If it is out quickly, well that’ll be great. I’ll get to play it soon. But we don’t know & that’s really all there is to it.

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@anon15396042

I completely disagree that the date of announcement is more important than actual previous dev time cycles & stories of things that have actually happened before.

You can’t say with absolute certainty “it was announced on this date & so will definitely be out by this date, ignore any other examples of other things taking longer, wrap it up boys we’re done”

Just completely disagree with that. We don’t know. The game will be out when it’s out. If it is out quickly, well that’ll be great. I’ll get to play it soon. But we don’t know & that’s really all there is to it.

I mean, I think that saying “it would be very bad to announce a game in 2021 and then it comes out in 2027” is fair, only huge things like GTA6, TES6 and Cyberpunk can get a pass.

[Searsy82]

From the sound of this thread Microsoft should have just stuck with the Xbox One till 2030 when they actually have some games.

[Biggzy (Hassan)]

@Searsy82

From the sound of this thread Microsoft should have just stuck with the Xbox One till 2030 when they actually have some games.

Or they should have waited until this year so the Series could launch with first party games. No thanks, I am very much enjoying the Series X and glad to have ditched the One X.

[Shakez]

@mrbobman15

If Turn 10 is already game testing Forza Motorsport with the public doesn’t that mean the chances of getting it this year are high?

Forza Motorsport 7 released almost 4 years ago

Motorsport is receiving a major overhaul, and will be launched for next-gen only.

They can take their time, this game will be incredible I’m sure.

[andrew_schmidt (HaloGaming08)]

@Biggzy

Or they should have waited until this year so the Series could launch with first party games. No thanks, I am very much enjoying the Series X and glad to have ditched the One X.

I went from base Xbox one to series x

[Biggzy (Hassan)]

@andrew_schmidt

I went from base Xbox one to series x

Boy, that must have been some upgrade for you lol.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@andrew_schmidt

I went from base Xbox one to series x

god speed

[Mort]

@andrew_schmidt

I went from base Xbox one to series x

That’s like going from B&W TV to color… How did it feel?

[PoderickPayne (Travis Norris)]

@Mort

That’s like going from B&W TV to color… How did it feel?

Moist

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@PoderickPayne

Moist

[mrbobman15 (Giorgio)]

I feel like there’s been a lot of missed opportunities within the 2nd party publishing branch when you look at how many fantastic 2nd party deals have been going around with other publishers. Which begs the question, why didn’t Microsoft utilize global publishing hard during the Xbox One generation when they didn’t have a lot of studios?

Here is me guessing multiple theories on why, let me know what you all think:

• They tried with Phantom Dust and Scalebound but both projects were cancelled, I’m very thankful that we still got the HD re-release of Phantom Dust for free though. Can’t make comments about Scalebound cause we don’t know the situation behind that.

• Microsoft has a pretty conservative soft or hard cap on how much they were willing to spend on 2nd party game projects.

• Microsoft spent a lot more money than we realize on projects like Fable Legends, Project Knoxville, Scalebound and Crackdown 3 than we think.

• Microsoft felt more confident in 2015 that their situation with first party would’ve fixed itself out.

I’m glad that first party is finally being addressed and it feels like its being addresed HARD. especially with Microsoft acquiring Bethesda. There’s also rumors right now going about that IOI interactive is creating a project with 2nd party but many rumors are saying that its going to be a Diablo type project, which makes me think it’ll be something on the smaller end.

But then there’s also the rumor going about that Microsoft might be working with Kojima Productions on a big project so… yyeaah Xbox is in a much better spot now IMO than they were 5 years ago.

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@Roronoa_Zoro90

…imeline in order to have a stacked second half, because a situation like this is no good, Sony will objectivly had one AAA (Ratchet, even if it’s not a massive scale one), one AA (Returnal) and one dud (Destruction lmao) in the same timespan. 3 > 0, it’s undenyable, let’s see from july what happens. MS will need very big GP deals to counteract the guaranteed criticism if there will be “only” Halo Infinite (a delayed 2020 game), Psychonauts 2 (a multiplatform game announced a lifetime ago at TGA 2015), Grounded (the final release of an already availabe early access game) and Flight Simulator (the console port of a 2020 pc game) from first party. If they’ll add FH5 and Starfield (I don’t count CrossFireX, technically a XGS published game expected this year) to the fray, well, we’re good. XD

Couldn’t agree more with this summation.

@Ratchet_231

…ry unappealing one atm, despite how good all 3 of those look. While it may seem underwhelming, personally I look at what’s probably down the pipe for the next 18-24 months and I see Psychonauts 2, Halo Infinite, Hellblade 2, Starfield, Deathloop (surely coming to GP as soon as the timed exclusivity period ends), Ghostwire Tokyo (same as Deathloop), and I’m personally very satisfied with that, and if we get even more, then that’s even better, and that’s on top of shit like Tales of Arise supposedly launching into gamepass and probably more 3rd parties launching into gamepass. I’m not saying XGS is perfect, but honestly I just don’t think that’s a bad lineup whatsoever. My only concern is that, that lineup actually is it, and none of this stuff gets delayed (I’m namely concerned for Hellblade)

@Khalid117x

That will get harder for them as we move further into the generation. Series X has some massive untapped potential if you look at things like sampler feeback streaming or ml super resolution. When this is not available on ps5 the gap will definitely widen over the course of time.

Yep, I keep telling people to watch this space: the software and hardware features, when utilized, are going to surprise people with their results more than the already tangible hardware spec delta allows. As someone who works with people who’ve utilized some of these features on a much larger scale, the capabilities allowed can be game changers.

[mrbobman15 (Giorgio)]

Contrary to the popular consensus on the internet I enjoyed my time with Bleeding Edge. It was a fun lower budget AA game with nice visual flare and enjoyable multiplayer to hop onto from time to time.

It was also released in March at the start of the pandemic which fit perfectly, only thing was I couldn’t get any friends to join me :(. ah well, I hope Ninja Theory keeps that group of developers together.

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@mrbobman15

Contrary to the popular consensus on the internet I enjoyed my time with Bleeding Edge. It was a fun lower budget AA game with nice visual flare and enjoyable multiplayer to hop onto from time to time.

It was also released in March at the start of the pandemic which fit perfectly, only thing was I couldn’t get any friends to join me :(. ah well, I hope Ninja Theory keeps that group of developers together.

I tried the alpha, the beta and played during the first days and the real problems were 2: not enough content (not even close) and released out of time, maybe 3-4 years before it would have been successfull.

I think NT has already fully moved on, BE director is now co-director of Hellblade 2, so that’s it.

[mrbobman15 (Giorgio)]

I was playing some Recore today because I never finished it. The concept is great and the FPS boost to 60fps makes it a title worth going back to. With gamepass now being a thing I would like to see a sequel to Recore. Give the IP another shot, what’s the worst that could happen?