No rush. Plenty to play until then.
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Yeah, that’s not too surprising really, roughly a 5 year dev time
Don’t really see what Xbox could have ready for this 2026 next gen launch people want. For instance, a “system seller” like ES6 likely wouldn’t even be ready then. And we have pretty good idea based on leaks on what everyone is working on now… I think only like Outer Worlds 2 would be pencilled in for 2026 as a sure fire game if not earlier. And we know Blade is planned for 2027… The more I look at it this 2026 next gen launch really doesn’t make sense.
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Gears
Grubb has said Gears is coming sooner than people think. Which leads me to believe it’s 2025, not 2026.
My stance is that you don’t really need a system seller when everything is going to be cross gen and generations are more fluid. They don’t even need people to rush into the new console.
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I really hope next gen doesn’t start in 26, because it just feels like it started. The pandemic delayed so much, it just feels rushed.
Now 28 I could see, but 26 is just two years away from now.
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Series S/X problem at launch was that they didn’t have “exclusives”, it was because things like Gears Tactics and I can’t even remember what else weren’t particularly appealing
I don’t really think they need actual next gen exclusives at launch, they just need big AAA appealing games that look nice and pretty on the console
Those that want to upgrade can. those that want to stick with a cheap S/X can do that too, maybe release Gears 6 in 2025 and release a super duper ray tracing everywhere edition in 26
Then stick with your S/X until 2028 and don’t upgrade to whatever’s next?
Everything announced or even rumored is coming to S/X so it’s not like your console will be going to waste if they release a new one in 26, same goes for all their other games
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I already suspected Gears 6 is coming in 2025 based on the fact Gears 5 was in 2019 and we almost know for sure there smaller project was dropped.
I have to say that 2025 could be a big year in terms of the games released.
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https://x.com/idlesloth84_/status/1738734819138290110?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ
Xbox is so safe.
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I hate the hardware manufacturers being cross-gen because at that point, why are you releasing a new console when I don’t need it yet? For Microsoft and Xbox, it makes even less sense because with Game Pass Ultimate, just stream the next gen version to your Xbox Series X/S which make all the games cross-gen without being cross-gen.
If it was up to me, there would be no cross-gen because why should I have studios make a last generation version and be stuck with that hardware limiting what the developers can/want to do when I can eliminate this issue completely while at the same time, giving those who don’t want to upgrade to next generation an option to still play those games via the cloud via Game Pass Ultimate?
Hoping Microsoft stays with 2028. If it was me, I target late September 2028 with Halo 7, the next Forza Motorsport, Banjo remake, World of Warcraft complete for console and then in November, COD 2028 being a platform (annual release would be dead) and if it doesn’t make 2027, I delay Marvel’s Blade to November 2028 even if I have to sit on it.
Do that, no cross-gen, eliminate the online multi-player paywall and with a two month head start should get a lot of people jumping in to Xbox. And of course, show 2029 and beyond games at the 2028 Xbox Showcase including but not limited to The Elder Scrolls VI.
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Imagine if Sony did it and Microsoft didnt or vice versa. Its a lead.
Even if its 2028 you’re still getting cross gen. It’s the reality of game budgets and it’s the reality of having a subscription service that you need to provide content to both customers that have and haven’t upgraded. And we know streaming is not a reasonable solution for a number of reasons.
Sony is releasing one in 2024 evidently
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So IMO
2024
- MSFS 2024
- Avowed
- Hellblade 2
- Towerborne
- Ara
- Warcraft Port
- Gears collection
- Call of Duty
2025
- Fable
- Gears 6
- Everwild
- Clockwork Revolution
- Oblivion Remaster
- Call of Duty
- Quake
2026
- State of Decay 3
- Forza Horizon 6
- Starfield Online
- South of Midnight
- Project Odyssey
- OD
- Call of Duty
2027
- Tony Hawk Infinite
- Blade
- Call of Duty
- Halo Infinite 2
- New IP from Zenimax Online
- Perfect Dark
2028
- Ghostwire Tokyo 2
- Hi Fi Rush 2
- Redfall 2 Bite me
- Call of Duty
- Diablo V
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Sony had a few games that were current generation only but not the major big titles which to me is disappointing because if I can play the top tier games on your previous generation hardware then why am I buying your new console?
I didn’t like that Microsoft was doing cross-gen for 2 1/2 years because for them, it doesn’t make any sense because they have the capability to still have previous generation users to play the games.
I’m not something who believes that everything should just stay as “one single generation” because there’s only one place for that and it’s called PC. The only way a console can truly be like PC if it’s modular meaning that you can replace the CPU, GPU, RAM and SSD but I doubt this will ever happen.
NA is Microsoft’s best market and while there’s a few areas that may not be able to stream games, the MB required isn’t massive and the vast majority would be able to plus third party games especially Indies would still be cross-generation which is fine because they’re not the hardware manufacturer. So I don’t see the subscription service being that big of an issue. When the next generation consoles release, are they still going to support Xbox One because Game Pass is there? They’re not nor should they.
Third party games can be cross-generation which is the vast majority of games anyway and Microsoft’s games can be what I mentioned before in my opinion. I simply dislike the idea of games being released on a next generation console yet it’s still tied to 8 year old hardware, especially if it’s a live service game.
Of course, this is just my own personal opinion.
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You know people won’t still be using Xbox One. Fact is they’ll have 30+ million Game Pass subscribers and it’ll be many years before they all transition to ‘next gen’. If they stop supporting the old consoles they’ll simply lose subs because they won’t be providing them enough content, which is not what they want.
Streaming is not an acceptable substitute for most people yet. They will, again, lose subs if they tell people they need to stream everything.
I know you just want the best games possible, but it doesn’t make business sense.
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They wouldn’t be missing out on everything. Just a few games until they upgrade. I hate the idea that oh, we must protect previous generations? Why? When Gamecube launched, did people complain that those games couldn’t be played on Nintendo 64? Nope. Did people complain that Xbox 360 games couldn’t be played on the original Xbox? Nope. When PlayStation 3 launched, did people complain that those games couldn’t be played on PlayStation 2? Nope.
If people want to play EVERYTHING on one platform, well there’s an easy solution, it’s called PC. Consoles will forever be “generational” regardless of who likes it or not and besides, it’s all bullshit anyway because they kill off cross-gen eventually so what’s the difference?
I didn’t buy Xbox One until 2015 with ROTTR but I never complained that I couldn’t play it on my Xbox 360. I didn’t buy a PlayStation 3 until Fall 2009 when Uncharted 2 released. I never once complained that I couldn’t play these games on PlayStation 2.
But again, my own personal opinion that will never change.
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I feel like it’s obvious why, they are paying $15 a month for content in a subscription services and if that content stops coming then they leave. It’s as simple as that. Xbox is about MAU across active platforms and until enough of the base moves from one console to the next they’ll want to keep the content coming.
That said, did you see that Spiderman 2 needs 7 million copies sold to break even? Who is going to release a game like that to a user base of 0 to 10 million (first year or so of console lifespan)? They’ll lose money instantly. There’s a massive difference in production costs for games than there was 2 and 3 and 4 generations ago.
Are PCs “generational”? A console is damn near a PC now. Things don’t need to reboot and start from scratch every 6-8 years. Those days no longer make any sense.
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It’s not obvious because we’re only talking about Microsoft’s first party games which will be an average of 4 a year at most. Third parties do cross-gen for years and always have but the hardware manufacturers rarely have. They’ll still get plenty of content in their subscription. Not everyone would leave. A very small percentage would leave as most subscribers just stay for whatever reason.
I don’t buy the wait until enough of the base moves to the next gen console because look at Xbox Series consoles. Let’s say they’re at 30M in 3 years while Xbox One was at around 60M. They also have PC Game Pass which Microsoft themselves have said has grown much more than console and I wouldn’t be surprised if their subscriber count is bigger on PC than it is on Xbox Series.
I saw the Spider Man 2 $315M budget and everything but that’s a different business model which doesn’t apply to Microsoft because of Game Pass, PC and Cloud. And again, im only talking first party. I’m not talking about third party publishers. As for Microsoft losing money, well, you can’t expect people to jump to your next console if you’re not giving them a reason to do so and the number one reason will forever be - GAMES. More importantly, exclusive games because if I can play 3 years worth of games on my old hardware, why do I need to buy your new hardware when it’s not doing anything better than what I already own?
Also, Microsoft isn’t spending $300M+ on every game like Sony is. That’s Sony’s problem. Microsoft has a lot of AA games and budgets. It’s just like Game Pass. Not every game is worth the same price.
A console is like a PC but let’s be honest, it’s a poor man’s PC. Also, PC just stays as one. You can upgrade it but if you don’t, you’ll still be able to play 95% of the games where as on console, that doesn’t apply. You can play 2023 games on PC using low end components but you can’t play these same games on your Xbox One or Xbox 360.
You say that things don’t need to reboot but that’s exactly what a new console with new hardware inside the box that is superior to the previous generation hardware is all about. Should it all be backwards compatible? Yes. But forward compatible? No. Because at that point, you’re never going to maximize the hardware that you built to sell to consumers because you’re always going to be limited to the previous generation’s hardware capabilities.
I look at a game like Cyberpunk 2077. The game was a disaster on PS4/XBO but if you played it on PS5 or Xbox Series, it was a far better experience because the hardware was superior and can run the game far better. Should the game have been cancelled for PS4/XBO and delayed? In my opinion, absolutely especially since majority of CDPR’s fans are on PC anyway. But the point is, I don’t want to see games get handcuffed because developers can’t do this or that because oh shit, we need to make this runs and works on almost decade old tech.
Sorry but as much as people want to push that consoles aren’t generations, the truth is they still are and always will be unless they become modular and you can literally swap out the GPU or the RAM or whatever like you can on a PC.
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I don’t know anything abut an “aircraft shooter” , but I know PCF have never made an rpg as far as I can remember. Shadowrun was just as much about Hacking and stealth as shooting, more in fact.