Xbox Acquisition |OT2| Something, Something, Snowball Effect

You’re way overthinking it. Bleeding Edge had a unique selling point, had some pretty decent previews from E3 2019 praising how fun it was. It’s problem was its longevity in the long run and there wasn’t a fresh feel with every match like you would get with the likes of Overwatch that no amount of new maps or characters could overcome. You could see why MS wanted to finish it. It could have shaped up on launch and community could have helped. It’s just it couldn’t overcome that sameyness that a lot of other “Hero shooter” adjacent games had and it didn’t move the needle.

It wasn’t even political. Game’s fun. Just doesn’t last long. Back in the day it would have been rental classic. Maybe NT should have stuck to the MOBA pitch over Hero Shooter they apparently had. But lessons will have been learned and if anything with the new relationship. It would have taught everyone that it’s OK to experiment even if it doesn’t take off. NT will get em’ with their next few games.

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HP and LOTR are not owned by WB. Rowling Estate and Tolkien Estate might be the owners .

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I’m salty that MHDR & Moon studios won’t sell.

Another studio I’d love them to get is Playdead.

I knew there was some wonkiness with LOTR but I thought WB had bought out the media rights for HP. Well I’m fine with just DC rights. Batman is a seller and I would love some lesser used IPs like a green lantern game or a Constantine horror game.

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Obsidian said they wouldn’t until they did so who knows. They can’t just give away their leverage.

Obsidian actually had mentioned interest in being acquired but only if it was the right opportunity.

1 year later it was Microsoft.

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Constantine horror game is such a super idea.

Considering what SEGA has to offer for Xbox, it is the one that most fits gamepass model. x Not to mention, before your arcade in Japan was a modified Xbox OG. x

Having SEGA Group Corp would not only stimulate Xcloud in Japan but in the West as too. Cheapest, smartest acquisition that will make a profit in the short and long term.

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Nexon invested only in pachinkos and arcades, not in the gaming sectors. SEGA is currently separate from Sammy and all of its businesses, and Konami has closed its 1-3 games division. Your insistence does not make sense.

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Welcome!

You are entering the volcanic caverns of Sega and Capcom discussions - just sayin’. :rofl:

I hope you get a chance to look around the other threads too. Cheers.

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Obsidian was near a closure. One flop and they would be gone.

Playdead got money from Epic, Moon got a new deal as well and MHDR are in a similar situation as Team Cherry. Small team with a dedicated fanbase who likes to buy every merch by the studio.

This keeps coming up. While my inner SEGA fanboy child wants this to happen - so SEGA has dedicated hardware again and can flourish with its own style of games -, I have been duped a few too many times.

I really hope it happens, only to have a proper Sonic again that uses next gen hardware for awesome arcade like scenes of boombastic nature; without the complaining and whining of multi platform reviewers and platform specific reviewers that whine about it not being that platform specific title.

But again I’m really talking with my inner fanboy child here lol.

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Sega depends on Sammy if they want to sell Sega alone then that good but if sammy want keep Sega to increase it’s value in case they want to sell the whole company, right here is the problem. Sega software still makes money for them and i can’t see Sammy selling unless the buyer offered triple or double it’s value

for $6B-$8B sega sammy is not worth it

Kong! After Kiryu’s big daddy adventures, I will need more dad vibes taking down bullies! What!? I’m into dad rpgs now! I embraced the dadness!

(Not at all just wishing to beat stuff up in an Arcade fashion, nope not at all. Nor do I wish Crackdown 3’s demonstrated building destruction with Kong and I’m using the Sad Dad simulator genre as an excuse to get MS to do it. With the promise of success :lying_face:)

Or you buy the whole thing and spin off Sammy yourself. Or at least the pachinko parts. Sammy also made video games and has a good portfolio there. But I doubt it’s worth that much, Covid-19 hit Sammy hard.

$6B is premium price i believe they worth $4-5B

MS will purchase a publisher in Asia sooner or later 100% They need a foothold there and the publisher is best way to achieve that. I do wonder if they could purchase somebody in Korea and somebody in Japan, because those two serve different demographics for the most of the part.

It would be even benefit them as with their approach they can for example make Bethesda buy other european studios, some asian publisher to buy studios in asia and so on.

That would be horrible. I like Sega for the pick up and play arcade games. If those are our? Then it’s not Sega sorry. Part of their charm even with the RGG studios is that there is a lot of Arcade inspired gameplay in there from the fights to the mini games. Without that, it simply isn’t Sega.

That’s a lot of us, here.

I realize that this horse has been flogged to death but I do want to add one thing that I don’t think has been mentioned so far, but I think with SEGA you have an opportunity of a partnership that is greater than the sum of its parts.

Microsoft has been loud and clear that they believe in preserving the history of games. Their efforts in backwards compatibility have been out of this world. Once MS owns SEGA, they may have a vested interest in offering their entire back catalog to Xbox gamers, perhaps? We see the original Xbox and the Xbox 360 being emulated on the One and on the Series consoles. Who’s to say they won’t make the same effort for the Master System, Mega Drive, Saturn, and Dreamcast? This sort of initiative wouldn’t come from SEGA, but MS would be interested.

And with SEGA’s experience in arcade games, who’s to say that they could introduce Xbox and Gamepass to the world of arcades? You could say that arcades are dead, but arcade games still live on in bowling alleys, movie theaters, entertainment complexes, etc. I don’t want to get into this too much but I actually have written notes about this idea and maybe I’ll post a thread about it in the future. So if anyone has any thoughts on this topic please hold until I create that thread, I don’t want to be responsible for derailing this one. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: But I think they are ingenious ways of marketing Gamepass with arcades and leveraging the Xbox Network and the Xbox App on people’s phones with arcades. Again, I’ll get into details in a future thread.

The other area where this relationship could blossom is that SEGA would have much better insight on breaking into the Japanese market with xCloud. SEGA might convince MS that a handheld streaming-only device is needed (hey I’ll make a thread for that too I have a couple thousand words written on that already heh). MS clearly isn’t interested in such a device but if SEGA is convinced this is needed to break into Japan, MS would at least take the proposal seriously. My point is that their input is extremely invaluable and when it comes to the Japanese market they could be in the co-driver’s seat.

So whereas all of these other partnerships between developers/publishers and Microsoft are pretty straightforward I think one with Sega creates many new opportunities and a cooperation that’s on another level. It’s not as simple as “we’re publishing your games now” like you could see with Capcom, but rather a partnership that brings two innovators together.

All that said, SEGA of Japan doesn’t have the best track record so I’m not going to pretend that they’re equal partners. But rather they’ll have a strong voice.

#MakeSegaFirstPartyAgain hehe

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Then those purchases would not make sense. The whole goal of MS is to gain the foothold in Asia and not get the studios that produce European content.

The whole purpose of SE or SEGA’s purchase is to access the SEA market and for that they need japanese branch first and foremost.

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