The Big ol' Xbox 3rd Party Releases Discussion Thread (HiFi, SoT, Pentiment, Grounded) (Part 2)

Honestly, I do wonder just how long before TVs come with inbuilt gaming technology as they will certainly have A.I. I’d say in the next 5years devices will come with the tech to play games natively. We’ve already seen Apple do it with RE and Death stranding. there is a reason Microsoft wants to have an Xbox mobile store. Obviously when you don’t need a console to play games natively on your TV what then becomes of the consoles?

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As the prices come down on these new high performance ARM APUs I think it’ll be a no brainer for them to keep up with mobile (at least on high end TVs)

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TVs running the Google TV OS can already play games natively. Might not be the latest AAA blockbusters in 4K, and it’s a pretty limited selection of games in the Play Store, but it’ll only keep growing. Android/Apple streaming boxes are another alternative.

For “proper” gaming you have the cloud. Either way, consoles are quickly becoming obsolete for a good chunk of the market. People really need to get used to it. A “PC-box” is probably the best you can hope for in the medium term.

I always thought that Shinobi works as some kind of developer for Wushu Studio as they co-developed several games including ongoing work on State of Decay 2 I think. So as a dev he probably talks with other industry folks so he’d hear stuff for sure.

The one thing though about all the speculation, is that if, let’s say Gears 6 was coming to all platforms, I mean there are quite a lot of people working on a game so the information would probably be easier to come by.

As for next-gen plans or going full 3rd party, unless you’re on the higher end of the Xbox business for example, unless it’s a strategy that has been heavily discussed company wide, I’d think it’d be harder to actually leak.

He is a community manager for Keyword Studios who are in the news because a venture capital company is about to buy them for a few billion. They do tons of support work on games. It’s weird to me that a social media/forum mod employee has a side hustle as a gaming insider to push a personal brand, but whatever.

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That’s a good point. People like to say that Starfield didn’t move the needle but…

  • It’s not like Starfield scored a 95 on MC. If it did and still didn’t move the needle then yea. So I totally see your point about not having that big Meta Critic game.

  • But at the end Starfield is just one game. I’ve always said one game alone is not enough to move any needle. More a sum of all the parts (games). It’s in that sense that I feel Microsoft didn’t give themselves enough time to get a steady flow of games before they started pivoting towards this multiplatform push.

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Yup I just checked, but he did previously work at Wushu Studios, so I guess my information was outdated.

I don’t think his info is outdated because he seems to be in the industry. However, I do feel irresponsible for somebody in the industry to be making posts like he does, but he seems to be a reliable source on things.

There’s a group of friends that either have the same source or just talk to each other because they mostly just confirm what others have said. It’s pointless, and only harms industry discourse, I hate it.

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Yeah, the whole thing is odd to me especially for a person in the industry. I can’t really think of any other industry where somebody is in the industry and also an insider. More power to them, but I find it incredible risky to teeter that fine line.

I dont mean specs. Im saying a generic Windows OS in a fixed spec box. Reminds me of the OG Xbox which was just an Intel and Nvidia chip.

I always assumed that when Xbox had say 50m customers on PC, 80 million on Cloud and 20m on dedicated boxes, at that point you have 130m customers in one hand, most of which you can carry forward indefinitely, would you really need a console?

Its a means to an end. Xbox used to sell games on DVDs and blu rays and now they are being phased out forever, because they don’t need them to deliver games.

You know that Microsodt isnt thinking of putting a disc drive in the next Xbox, it just isnt going to happen. So you have to think…if MS is looking at the next generation…that will go presumably until 2036…thats 17 years after Xcloud was into beta, presumeably if you’re Xbox…projecting 100m game pass subscribers by 2030 and buying ABK will accellerate your plans, that you want that kind of flexibility for your next hardware.

Anyone who wants hardware can buy a steamdeck like console with Xbox branding…probably going to be $900…but hey, they always said the console market isnt growing…and at those prices it will shrink. For everyone.

He may not be technically under NDA’s for shit he talking about. It’s not worth for me to double check how tight are my NDA’s so I’m not leaking shit about a game from a particular table-top IP that was once in development and may still be.

At most he risk’s being unemployable and as a CM that’s not a problem because a lot of them turn out to be toxic, unemployable people that for some reason are only candidates for CM’s job.

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I definitely am surprised Microsoft hasn’t made a USB stick for Game Pass. I feel like there is potential for that. Thow in a controller and away you go. It wouldn’t be the best if you want to play offline, but if you’re fine with streaming the video games, it would work.

It sounded like it cost more than they thought was worth it.

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Supposedly throwing in a controller pushed it way past most other streaming sticks.

Maybe if there was a way to use your phone it could work. I’m not saying I like that idea, just it would bring down the cost, if you go that way. That being said I’ve seen cheap plug & play controllers, so if it isn’t as great as the normal one that could work too.

I have heard many say they don’t have the bandwidth especially since they seem to be focusing a lot more on cloud and perhaps, they just wanted to make it look that way. I do think that they will begin cranking up on the cloud now with COD on the way. there’s also all the cloud deals they’ve done.

With the prices and sizes of TVs you would think it’s a no brainer and also, I would think the earlier they start the quicker they can drive prices down. I would certainly have expected Samsung to have jumped in a bit earlier with them having their own foundry. I do wonder why you don’t see any of this make it yourself YouTube on this.

Cloud deals were smart in the end as the sooner they get Gamepass available elsewhere (I think it’s already somewhat linked when using GeForce Now) MS gets the benefit of selling a Gamepass subscription but doesn’t have to pay for the video bandwidth as the other provider is doing that part of the service, so it lessens the load on their end in terms of bandwidth and hardware but they still reap the profits. It might also lessen the need for them to release their own streaming stick.

I think they need to get in all smart TVs but also make it officially available on the Fire Stick. It’s like everyone I know owns one of those!

How can these guys leak info under NDA with their personal profile baffles me while actively working on the industry who trusts these guys? Nintendo would take these guys under if they talked like that.

I think so too. I would think if Microsoft releases that streaming box this year they will have all this cloud providers that they made deals with included or have their own apps or channel on it. Nvidia for example offers full GamePass subscription.