Native Xbox Handheld delayed to fix Windows per Windows Central

The point of cloud gaming is that you don’t need “top-class console tech.”

I can wait a little longer :slight_smile:

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What powers Xbox Cloud Blades?

I guess it wasnt delayed after all!

Is this Rog Ally thing backwards compatible?

I’m gonna buy a new PC more likely, but am a wee curious about pricing and features.

This is one is there first PC with Xbox branding and console like UI, so you won’t have access to all your Xbox games yet. But any game, on PC Game Pass and Play Anywhere program will be a playable on the Rog Xbox Ally.

If this goes well, you can bet they will go all in with their project.

Xbox PC vision is crazy this version right now is cold I believe after the launch of the next Xbox where we see the Xbox games being playable on devices with the Xbox PC version of windows. Steam, GOG, Amazon, Epic, Xbox store all on one app is crazy. Xbox will probably make more money from the OEM’s than they did from from Xbox Hardware. Let 3rd party manufacturers make the Xbox PC hardware. It also ends generations and gives gamers access to all games except the ones that don’t come to PC. Gamepass, Software, DLC, Oems, Cloud Gaming will make Microsoft Gaming unstoppable. They said Xbox is dead but it seems like it’s going toward God Mode if they can pull it all off. They need to push this stripped down version of windows to the Musicians too if it can run Pro Tools, FL Studio, Studio One, Reason, Akai MPC 3.0 and all the VSTs without the need for all that unnecessary legacy code hogging up the resources would be lovely too since a majority of musicians use gaming pcs for music production anyway and gives it another thing Steam OS cant do.

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I can’t wait to see how the software/OS works. If it does work seamless as their presentation, this could be big.

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It’s a Windows PC. So backwards compatible with PC - yes. With console - no.

Pricing will be interesting. But I’d expect the base version around €699 and the “X” around €899.

People were questioning the point of an Xbox handheld and its viability for Microsoft if people would Steam anyway but this is where the power of being the default store comes in, assuming it all works smoothly like it does on console, most people won’t have the need to use steam or Epic, unless the game is not available on the Xbox app. They need to keep pushing play anywhere aggressively, improve cloud and get xbox games running natively on windows.

When they get Xbox backwards compatibility working on windows their vision becomes very clear, a unified ecosystem where the development resources for Xbox ports will be minimal. All PC games will just run on an Xbox, which mean that Xbox will probably have the best game library of any console, will be a funny the day it happens :laughing:

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I’m kind of on the fence here. Really feel like getting the ROG Xbox Ally here as it would really entice me to play more games to be honest, but at the same time if it has no Xbox compatibility in the future it sucks a bit as it won’t be as future proof. But then again, will the native Xbox handheld also give you the option to run full Windows if you want to? I’d kind of like a device that can do both to be honest.

Ive been looking at the handhelds for a while though, and also wondering if I should wait a bit longer as the Z2 extreme doesn’t seem to be a huge jump from the Z1 extreme except for power efficiency.

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What they were showing is pretty close to what you can do in a desktop today with the game bar. I always run into small issues with it getting hung up when switching between store apps, but it feels like they’re almost there.

I’m more curious about the efficiency gains and ultimately how that stacks up against SteamOS.

Looked good to be honest and I’m not one for HH. If the price is right, I may ask the good wife to get it for me for Christmas.

I think what we are seeing here is the ground work needed to reach their ultimate goal, to have a Windows OS that is gamer friendly across multiple devices.

Phase 1

  • Improve Windows for handheld (TDP, lower resources/usage, etc.)
  • Optimize UI for controllers

Phase 2

  • Take what you learned, bring it to the next Xbox console and official Xbox handheld.
  • Add Xbox backwards compatibility

Phase 3

  • Release the Xbox experience (Game Mode) + Xbox BC to all Windows users

If all goes well, we could end up with a device that can play Xbox + Steam/GOG/Epic. Given that it’s Windows, you could even throw in emulation.

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The moment I can play my BC copy of Ridge Racer 6 on the Xbox App on a Windows handheld is when I’ll be sold on the concept.

Really hoping they pull off the emulation part in order to support the whole Xbox library. An all-in-one device would be a dream come true!