Microsoft Closing Some Beloved Studios

Will see. I much rather trust someone who has business knowledge then no knowledge.

Yeah hoping the industry can balance out. It’s also fair to gloom when horrible stuff happens.

Gaming is my escape, and we are going to see more nasty shit go down(look at Sony’s stock)

Why to you think i said for saints to focus on moving to switch and pc?

Playstation, for all its supposed glory with Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade, are not doing so hot. In fact i would say they are worst off then Xbox. Then you have the Psn account situation, which kinda tells you how much of a bad scenario they are in.

Selling my xbox isn’t an option. I have hundreds of games on it some of which either I haven’t finished or even played yet. But the way things are going this very well could be the last xbox I buy. As someone who has been there since the beginning, sucks to even consider. May be Switch 2 and PC combo for me next gen.

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Unless you have a major aversion to PC or it is cost prohibitive, there is no reason not to go PC going forward.

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Just bought a 4080 Super, it’s time for me to move on from the ecosystem. I’ll still buy MS games if they are good( or ifs COD), but I don’t know if I want to commit to their ecosystem anymore, still planning to see the Showcase see what they got.

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Major aversion reporting!

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Trust me. I have all the business knowledge. When I show you my business knowledge, you’ll say ‘wow, this guy has business knowledge, that other guy did not have business knowledge’

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That’s why I used parenthesis. Evidence here just refers to new ideas that could hopefully give light to something better than the previous outcome.

I built a decent PC about 2 months ago. Ill probably never buy another console not made by Nintendo again.

I wish i had done it sooner tbh.

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iv thought about jumping into pc again but buying a playstation xbox and switch is cheaper in my opinion compared to a good pc

A good PC you’ll have your mid gen refresh at the beginning if the generation though haha. Also saving 100+ a year if you are the type to play online.

Even then a series x disk ps5 and switch 300 is 1300. A series s ps5 digital and switch lite is 900 i think, I just did a quick amazon search and a 4090 alone seems to be 1700 or 2k. The big benefit with pc is you dont need to upgrade as much if you go all out and more options.

Haha yeah, that’s true. It’s definitely the more expensive option, and you won’t get Nintendo games.

I tend to agree but there are a few reasons for me why I don’t go PC.

First is the cost. While I could build one for a decent price, (my) builds tend to snowball from “power/feature creep”. Get a better video card? Ah you need a better processor now to take advantage, whoops now better RAM, oh need a better motherboard for all of that, etc… It’s hard to stay in budget when you know there is better components out there. With Xbox I’ve got “MS rewards” so starting from zero today I can probably save enough for my Nextbox fully by the time it comes out, maybe year 2 or whenever games stop being cross gen.

Despite wanting to build something high-end if I do build a PC, I’m not all that into bleeding edge graphics or FPS. Console works just fine for what I need, as outside of Forza I don’t really play power hungry games.

Consoles are as plug and play as we’re going to get. I don’t really don’t want to bother with configuring things. I’m not saying this is some sort of big issue but on console performance and issues are what they are, there is nothing you can really do. On PC maybe it’s you, maybe it’s not, hard to tell sometimes. Oh I read the forums, here tweak this, etc…

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I also dont care about nintendo games. Iv never been a nintendo fan but i always have the systems because my wife and kid like animal crossing and mario kart

I was pretty hardcore into PC gaming from 2000 to 2007 until I got my Xbox 360. The main reason why I switched to console was because I always felt like I could get more out of my PC which resulted in yearly upgrades just to get that extra bit of performance (and yes this was 100% a me issue).

I guess I just prefer the console approach of “you get what you get”. :smile:

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Both things can be true, i.e. we can bemoan the loss of Tango (I actually do because I was still holding out hope for an Evil Within 3 with Kidman as the protagonist) whilst also understanding exactly ‘why’ the decision to can them was made. It’s not rocket science.

The trajectory of Tango under MS ownership is simply a condensed/accelerated version of Media Molecule under Sony, i.e. where their Little Big Planet game sits at 95 on metacritic… yet a series a bombs have led to the point where they laid off a load of staff & were reportedly on the brink of being shut down late last year (in fact their head is still on the chopping block).

It’s also fine to be unhappy with Tango’s closure whilst also understanding the sky isn’t falling on Xbox. Personally I think the Hi-Fi Rush discourse (& Tango’s shuttering) is heavily influenced by the fact the game became a lightning rod for console warring last year, i.e. with both sides using it to either big up Xbox (with talk of ‘game of the year’ etc.) or conversely cr*p all over the brand.

In the end money is king (pun unintended) & making stuff whilst losing money is going to be hard sell at any corporation no matter how well reviewed the product is.

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Can you expand on this, please? I’m not sure I understand.

The game was a highly rated metacritic title released exclusive to Xbox at a time when Xbox ‘had no games’ (like literally 2022 was completely barren & it was then followed a few months later by the infamous Redfall debacle).

Influencers talked about Hi-Fi Rush all the time, it featured heavily in list wars, Xbox fanboys heralded it as the second coming of Christ whilst PS fanboys obviously dumped on it for their own reasons. Its notoriety in online chatter far, far outweighed its actual impact on the market - be it in terms of outright sales or in terms of Gamepass numbers.

It is what it is.

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